FRS vs Genesis coupe

[wparsons]

Every time I hear this question, I think back to this article:

http://www.motortrend.com/news/high-...or-comparison/

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by ajaxthebetter

You forgot about the Twin Love, bro. How all of us are in this together. Twin owners just get one another, man. No hostilities between twin owners....

We're all family man #Squad

[gled21]

First off get a BRZ rather than an FRS, wont get into why but just do it. Second I was in this same dilemma when I was car shopping back in September and here is why I chose the brz. It is the manufactures responsibility to give you a proper platform to play with and it is your responsibility to add power or whatever it is you want. That being said and for the price the BRZ is dominant. If we consider price, the price difference between the 3.8 and a FI BRZ is minuscule and I can assure you, you will have a better more fun all around car with the BRZ if you add a turbo or SC. The ONLY thing I liked better in the Genny was the slack in the gear shifter bc thats a preference but as far as power/handling/feel BRZ is utterly superior. What is funny is I have a friend with a 3.8 with coils and I managed to still pass him on the inside of a corner with a bone stock BRZ and to this day he is salty about it. He currently is looking to trade it in for that new fiat FR in 2017.

[raven1231]

Totally bro^ Gennies be slow. I be merrin this one dude real hard cuz he finna think he about to pass me on da highway. lil did he no I have about 30k in my brz and blew his doors of. brz wayyyy faster then gen cope and liter fo who

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by gled21

First off get a BRZ rather than an FRS, wont get into why but just do it. .

I am actually very interested in the "why" of this statement.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I am actually very interested in the "why" of this statement.

Because bros/yolos/squadeys/tool bag flat brimmers look down on scions. Everyone knows the BRZ is a better car Tcoat...

Evidence of this:

A week after I got my car I was picking up some marine fish, and while in the store an employee asked "yo is that you FRS out there?". I looked over cringed and replied "yes". He then said "One question man, why not the BRZ?". He then proceeded to tell me how much better the BRZ was than the FRS. I even learned about the differences in power and drivetrain from this very intelligent enthusiast.

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Because bros/yolos/squadeys/tool bag flat brimmers look down on scions. Everyone knows the BRZ is a better car Tcoat...

Evidence of this:

A week after I got my car I was picking up some marine fish, and while in the store an employee asked "yo is that you FRS out there?". I looked over cringed and replied "yes". He then said "One question man, why not the BRZ?". He then proceeded to tell me how much better the BRZ was than the FRS. I even learned about the differences in power and drivetrain from this very intelligent enthusiast.

Yeah Utah is snowy and I had a Subaru fan completely at a loss why I took the FRS over the BRZ because as he puts it "you need AWD in Utah"

[iag48st]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Every time I hear this question, I think back to this article:

http://www.motortrend.com/news/high-...or-comparison/

Less than a second slower than the Mustang with Prius tires. Give the BRZ the same sticky Pirelli summer tires the performance pack Mustang had and its 2 seconds faster on SOW.

[FrankAR15]

Found a pic I already have with the Genesis and trash cans to make it even!!

[FrankAR15]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Totally bro^ Gennies be slow. I be merrin this one dude real hard cuz he finna think he about to pass me on da highway. lil did he no I have about 30k in my brz and blew his doors of. brz wayyyy faster then gen cope and liter fo who

I wouldn't say "Genny's be slow", lol. My 3.8 can do about 13.5 in the 1/4. I used to have a 1994 corvette and it stock did 13.7 and after exhaust and a few other things got it to a 13.3@108mph.(actual track numbers).

I clicked on your link and noticed all the performance upgrades you did, nice! Didn't read through whole post, but how much HP did it increase by? Run the 1/4?

Also, love those wheels that are on your car!

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by FrankAR15

I wouldn't say "Genny's be slow", lol. My 3.8 can do about 13.5 in the 1/4. I used to have a 1994 corvette and it stock did 13.7 and after exhaust and a few other things got it to a 13.3@108mph.(actual track numbers).

I clicked on your link and noticed all the performance upgrades you did, nice! Didn't read through whole post, but how much HP did it increase by? Run the 1/4?

Also, love those wheels that are on your car!

That whole post was mean't to be sarcastic. I actually think the genesis excels in several areas. It's a whole lot of car for the money, and definitely is no slouch. It provides an alternative to the 350/370z that has back seats and a whole lot nicer interior. The looks aren't for everyone but that can be said about really any car. I didn't personally buy it because I felt unconnected from the car compared to the frs.

Thanks though man! I loved my Frs, but unfortunately now it is gone. Traded it for a 16 wrx as my needs had changed. I have been ironically considering jumping back into to an 86 though when law school starts. I will be commuting roughly two hours every other weekend to school and back. I could use the extra mpg and lower payments (also was offered a trade in of 24.5k and I only paid 25k lol). If I do it will probably be have around 50k as they can be had around me for 15k and I'd only probably keep it until I graduate.

As for the upgrades I did. The ESC is a blast and really adds some pep to the car. It also allows for super easy install and provides a ton of low end torque. The ESC will put you at roughly 13.7 1/4 mile. It is in no way comparable to a full time FI unit though, however I believe it will get there at some point. That combined with my bolt ons made for an enjoyable car but you get use to the power rather quickly. I had some very unfortunate events happen that caused me to sell the ESC and I later picked up the turbo but never had a chance to install it.

If I were to do it all over again, and was looking for power, I'd suggest to anyone to just go FI from the start. If you're just looking for sound or to get rid of the dip then bolt ons are fine, but they won't make the car really any faster. You will just have a slightly slower car.

[RichardsFRS]

Originally Posted by gled21

First off get a BRZ rather than an FRS, wont get into why but just do it. Second I was in this same dilemma when I was car shopping back in September and here is why I chose the brz. It is the manufactures responsibility to give you a proper platform to play with and it is your responsibility to add power or whatever it is you want. That being said and for the price the BRZ is dominant. If we consider price, the price difference between the 3.8 and a FI BRZ is minuscule and I can assure you, you will have a better more fun all around car with the BRZ if you add a turbo or SC. The ONLY thing I liked better in the Genny was the slack in the gear shifter bc thats a preference but as far as power/handling/feel BRZ is utterly superior. What is funny is I have a friend with a 3.8 with coils and I managed to still pass him on the inside of a corner with a bone stock BRZ and to this day he is salty about it. He currently is looking to trade it in for that new fiat FR in 2017.

I want to know why you would choose one over the other please enlighten me!

[86 South Africa]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The Genesis was at the top of my short list until I stumbled across the FRS. Contrary to what many may think it wasn't a bad platform at all and actually comes very close to the FRS in the handling department. That is the newer ones mind you I have never driven one of the older gens.


Gonna throw the age old and much disputed disclaimer into the ring though. Here the track pack 3.8 Genesis will cost you about $10K more than a FRS. You can do a lot of shit to a FRS with $10K!

I agree. In the real world where we work, save a lot/finance your car - for most people $10k is a big difference. Comparing a like-for-like fa20 with 10k worth of "improvements" would make for a really different comparison.

On the handling front peeps always seem to forget the huge difference tyres make. Put me both on the same rubber and then we can really see which is the better chassis (having only driven the 86 I can't give a fair opinion in this instance).

Interesting match up of cars though. More so than the 'Cayman vs 86' debate anyways.

[86 South Africa]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Totally bro^ Gennies be slow. I be merrin this one dude real hard cuz he finna think he about to pass me on da highway. lil did he no I have about 30k in my brz and blew his doors of. brz wayyyy faster then gen cope and liter fo who

I literally have no idea what this says

Do they speak English where you're from? Haha.