Engine starts but doesn't run

[driftking96]

Originally Posted by Spartarus

*Looks at username* ...We want to hear the story of this front-end accident. With pics.

Then we will help you fix it.

The pictures will help in that endeavor.

Need to see the throttle body and intake manifold before I can help with the actuator and min stop code.

If the throttle body motor isn't working properly, the car will not start or idle. It's a drive-by-wire throttle.

Honestly I don't see why there is a need to judge me based on my user name. I got in to a simple front end crash that's all. It turns out I had something stuck in the throttle body. I will investigate further and see where it leads to. Thanks for the help anyways.

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[driftking96]

Originally Posted by kev60625

Leaves that out as if it doesn't matter

Lol sorry guys my stupidity. Obviously I should have mentioned something that serious and I didn't. I'm really sorry.

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[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by driftking96

Lol sorry guys my stupidity. Obviously I should have mentioned something that serious and I didn't. I'm really sorry.

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Lessons learned. No worries. It's big of you to own it so you're a good guy in my book.

Best of luck getting it fixed up.

[driftking96]

Is the throttle body valve opening/plate/cover supposed to be slightly slanted?

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[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by driftking96

Is the throttle body valve opening/plate/cover supposed to be slightly slanted?

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yes, just a tad and it should not stick. If you turn on the ignition, you should hear the servo buzz and you should hear it operate as you work the throttle pedal.

[driftking96]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

yes, just a tad and it should not stick. If you turn on the ignition, you should hear the servo buzz and you should hear it operate as you work the throttle pedal.

Is the servo supposed to buzz continuously when you turn on ignition? I can move it when I press the gas pedal. I tried starting the car but alas I couldn't get it to start. Still same issue as before. It cranks but doesn't run. This time I had a friend start it and when he did, right before the car died it made this loud pop which I have heard before. Except I saw a quick burst of blue flames. Not sure if that's good or bad. The flames came out of the throttle body. Any idea why?

EDIT: I didnt see the flames before because the throttle body was covered.

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[driftking96]

Holy shit did my stock engine just backfire? I just researched and found out that incomplete combustion can also occur through the manifold, previously I thought it was only through the exhaust? I have uploaded a video of my car starting up and at around 20 seconds you can see another really small and quick backfire with a little bit of flames, if I'm not wrong.

EDIT: Video attached inside compressed ZIP file and uploaded on vid.me
https://vid.me/GUFD

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by driftking96

Is the servo supposed to buzz continuously when you turn on ignition? I can move it when I press the gas pedal. I tried starting the car but alas I couldn't get it to start. Still same issue as before. It cranks but doesn't run. This time I had a friend start it and when he did, right before the car died it made this loud pop which I have heard before. Except I saw a quick burst of blue flames. Not sure if that's good or bad. The flames came out of the throttle body. Any idea why?

EDIT: I didnt see the flames before because the throttle body was covered.

Yes it will buzz all the time. Typical backfire. I suggest reinstalling everything upstream of the throttle body. Don't leave any holes. The MAF sensor is a critical component.

Maybe you were fiddling with the throttle while you were cranking it? That's a no-no.

edit: ok, saw the vid. I think once you put everything back on, it will run just fine.

[driftking96]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Yes it will buzz all the time. Typical backfire. I suggest reinstalling everything upstream of the throttle body. Don't leave any holes. The MAF sensor is a critical component.

Maybe you were fiddling with the throttle while you were cranking it? That's a no-no.

edit: ok, saw the vid. I think once you put everything back on, it will run just fine.

Okay now only issue is that I'm learning how to do all this so I'm not exactly sure what is upstream of the throttle? Would you please be kind enough to either tell me or refer me to a source so I can figure out what I have that is broken/missing that I need to replace? MAF is Mass Air Flow sensor and I'm pretty sure I found it but it may be broken. I will be attaching pictures of it below as soon as I get on a computer so I can downsize the images to fit the attachment requirements on the forum. I also have the oem intake which I will upload as well.

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[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by driftking96

Okay now only issue is that I'm learning how to do all this so I'm not exactly sure what is upstream of the throttle? Would you please be kind enough to either tell me or refer me to a source so I can figure out what I have that is broken/missing that I need to replace? MAF is Mass Air Flow sensor and I'm pretty sure I found it but it may be broken. I will be attaching pictures of it below as soon as I get on a computer so I can downsize the images to fit the attachment requirements on the forum. I also have the oem intake which I will upload as well.

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http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_201...10-070-02.html

Check that link. The parts diagram for the intake area is up top and it has corresponding part numbers/links so you can buy replacements.

EDIT: And this one, more up close diagram of the intake including the MAF:
http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_201...10-070-01.html

Throttle area:
http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_201...10-063-01.html

[jdubious]

If plastic bits get past the throttle plate it could potentially interfere with the valve train. I've seen this bend valves and cause a no start condition on a VW. I would do a compression test if possible.

[Spartarus]

Originally Posted by driftking96

Honestly I don't see why there is a need to judge me based on my user name. I got in to a simple front end crash that's all. It turns out I had something stuck in the throttle body. I will investigate further and see where it leads to. Thanks for the help anyways.

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Didn't mean to come off as judgemental. Meant it as a lighthearted joke.

Always happy to help.

I'll keep following and throw in any more help I can.

[driftking96]

Originally Posted by jdubious

If plastic bits get past the throttle plate it could potentially interfere with the valve train. I've seen this bend valves and cause a no start condition on a VW. I would do a compression test if possible.

Is a compression test the only way I can check if the valve train hasn't been compromised by plastic pieces? How exactly do you get a compression test and where do you do it?

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[driftking96]

Originally Posted by Spartarus

Didn't mean to come off as judgemental. Meant it as a lighthearted joke.

Always happy to help.

I'll keep following and throw in any more help I can.

Lol its all good. It's hard to say anything on the internet when there's no option to add in your tone or attitude which is why jokes work best in person I guess. Idk. Body language isn't something the internet has understood yet. Regardless, thank you.

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