Pop goes the 86

[smudge]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

6. ???

7. Profit

[Yobiwan]

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/product/86brz_parts/

part number of con Rod for HKS 2.1kit is 23004-AT001

and they say it's forged in HKS japanese site.

" 鍛造 means forged"

[smudge]

Originally Posted by Yobiwan

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/product/86brz_parts/

part number of con Rod for HKS 2.1kit is 23004-AT001

and they say it's forged in HKS japanese site.

" 鍛造 means forged"

Interesting that it mentions "forging" but doesn't actually say "forged rods" like the "forged pistons" bit...might just be a translation thing

[brianhj]

smudge were you running e85? can't remember

[Matt@Cosworth]

pretty difficult to get E85 in the Uk
so I doubt it

however we can get 98RON ( 93MON US) pretty much everywhere

[fumanchu1]

WTH is up, I have been hearing of countless thing HKS giving in recent months/year. From their supercharger kit that strip the blower after a few 100 miles, blown/defect engine parts, etc.


I used to hold a dear place in my heart for HKS as their products were always top notch and failure rate was minimal but recent months are reshaping my opinion about the company and their products.


Anyone know if they've changed manufacturing country/company, source material, change in leadership? I mean something must've happened for that many failures surfacing.

[smudge]

Originally Posted by brianhj

smudge were you running e85? can't remember

Nope, only option is around £180 (around $300) for a 50litre barrel - so 1 tank in the 86...decided against that

I think I've made my mind up what to do next. HKS haven't confirmed it yet, but it sounds like I'll be getting a replacement stroker kit and potentially a new block. But it's doubtful they'd pay for any of the install or labour to get it back to running form, and I really don't fancy shelling out any more money on the FA20 to simply go back to where I was 6 months ago

So...I think a V8 swap might be in order! Weighing up the parts that I can sell (NEW stroker kit, cams, injectors, clutch, flywheel, oil pump, oil cooler, Sprintex 335 etc) I should just about have enough to fund a fairly unique V8 project

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by smudge

Well that's exactly my issue. I would expect HKS to be high quality but it's confusing that the rods aren't forged liked the pistons and crank are.

We had about 260ftlbs at the wheels so we were closing in on the 300 figure you state but again HKS rate this kit to much higher figures so it shouldn't happen

Also historically HKS have been extremely conservative in their tested/safe rates. I remember seeing two identical blowers a few years back and the other company had it rated at 300ps while hks had it around 225-250.

[smudge]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

Also historically HKS have been extremely conservative in their tested/safe rates. I remember seeing two identical blowers a few years back and the other company had it rated at 300ps while hks had it around 225-250.

I think most companies do that to give themselves a "cushion" as such when people try and push the limits

[86 South Africa]

Man. That looks terrible!
In my (very amateur) opinion... I'm with @fumanchu1 on this. I've seen too many hks parts with problems recently.
I'm guessing you got a faulty part and it's just bad luck... But that v8 swap might just be a silver lining!

I've toyed with that idea myself - keen to see if you do it :-)

[Matt@Cosworth]

Originally Posted by smudge

Nope, only option is around £180 (around $300) for a 50litre barrel - so 1 tank in the 86...decided against that

I think I've made my mind up what to do next. HKS haven't confirmed it yet, but it sounds like I'll be getting a replacement stroker kit and potentially a new block. But it's doubtful they'd pay for any of the install or labour to get it back to running form, and I really don't fancy shelling out any more money on the FA20 to simply go back to where I was 6 months ago

So...I think a V8 swap might be in order! Weighing up the parts that I can sell (NEW stroker kit, cams, injectors, clutch, flywheel, oil pump, oil cooler, Sprintex 335 etc) I should just about have enough to fund a fairly unique V8 project

Cool

what V8 ? Lexus, Jag, BMW? LS7? Ford Coyote?

[smudge]

Originally Posted by 86 South Africa

Man. That looks terrible!
In my (very amateur) opinion... I'm with @fumanchu1 on this. I've seen too many hks parts with problems recently.
I'm guessing you got a faulty part and it's just bad luck... But that v8 swap might just be a silver lining!

I've toyed with that idea myself - keen to see if you do it :-)

Just need to find a buyer(s) for my supercharger and new engine bits from HKS. This will fund my V8 swap and I've had a lot of interest, just not the right people wanting the right bits just yet

[smudge]

Originally Posted by Matt@Cosworth

Cool

what V8 ? Lexus, Jag, BMW? LS7? Ford Coyote?

Wish I could afford an LS swap, but something a bit more affordable and probably actually more reliable just seems like the better options

Plus, with the engine I've chosen, I can still enter TSS

[akiranakayama]

Originally Posted by smudge

Wish I could afford an LS swap, but something a bit more affordable and probably actually more reliable just seems like the better options

Plus, with the engine I've chosen, I can still enter TSS

Everything I've read about the LSx swaps is that they're pretty reliable. What are you ultimately going with for a V8 powerplant?