Does anyone know the length of the stock front sway end links?

[Spacemane969]

I'm still fine tuning my adjustables, I think they might be much too short but I've since tossed the OEM ones and I'd like to compare.
Thanks

[Clutch Dog]

You cna tune the adjustable based off feel. That's why they are adjustable. If you want no preload on them then look at where the sway bar sits naturally and adjust out your endlinks to that. It should be relatively flat.

[Spacemane969]

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

You cna tune the adjustable based off feel. That's why they are adjustable. If you want no preload on them then look at where the sway bar sits naturally and adjust out your endlinks to that. It should be relatively flat.

I don't get the "natural" position. When disconnected from both links, it has about 90 degrees of swivel from a vertical to horizontal position. Where do you start?

I adjusted quite a bit shorter, but it still feels tight. They felt like money when I first installed them..but then the suspension settled and they bound up.

[Code Monkey]

This may help:

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[wparsons]

At resting height you want the blades of the sway bar level with the ground. Adjust the end links so that it's level and no twisting force applied at resting height. Chances are high that they'll be different lengths side to side to keep any preload (twisting force) off the bar at resting height.

Originally Posted by Spacemane969

I adjusted quite a bit shorter, but it still feels tight. They felt like money when I first installed them..but then the suspension settled and they bound up.

What do you mean by this? When are they bound up?

[Leonardo]

front looks like 9" & 5/8ths from ball joint to ball joint. rear is 3" & 5/8ths

[Spacemane969]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

front looks like 9" & 5/8ths from ball joint to ball joint. rear is 3" & 5/8ths

Thank you so much.

[Spacemane969]

Originally Posted by wparsons

At resting height you want the blades of the sway bar level with the ground. Adjust the end links so that it's level and no twisting force applied at resting height. Chances are high that they'll be different lengths side to side to keep any preload (twisting force) off the bar at resting height.



What do you mean by this? When are they bound up?

Just a tightness in the front end in general. It feels like I'm always hanging on to the wheel for dear life on turns instead of being in control.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Spacemane969

Just a tightness in the front end end general. It feels like I'm always hanging on to the wheel for dear life on turns instead of being in control.

You're looking at the wrong thing if you think the end link length is causing it... has the car always felt like that? If not, what did you change between it driving nicely and this?

[Spacemane969]

Originally Posted by wparsons

You're looking at the wrong thing if you think the end link length is causing it... has the car always felt like that? If not, what did you change between it driving nicely and this?

It's been this way ever since I put TRD springs on. I've added components here and there but nothing felt substantial until I added the endlinks. First drive felt perfect. It's the feeling of the suspension diving and planting itself in a turn, with little to no input from the wheel. The day after the install, that feeling was gone already. Note that I installed them with the hubs suspended in the air, which I later learned was incorrect.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Spacemane969

It's been this way ever since I put TRD springs on. I've added components here and there but nothing felt substantial until I added the endlinks. First drive felt perfect. It's the feeling of the suspension diving and planting itself in a turn, with little to no input from the wheel. The day after the install, that feeling was gone already. Note that I installed them with the hubs suspended in the air, which I later learned was incorrect.

Have you had it aligned yet? Removing the front shocks, plus lowering, is guaranteed to have the alignment out by a decent amount.

[Spacemane969]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Have you had it aligned yet? Removing the front shocks, plus lowering, is guaranteed to have the alignment out by a decent amount.

Yes multiple times. Installed adjustable rear LCAs and front camber bolts to bring everything back to factory spec. I even have bump steer correction kit.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Spacemane969

Yes multiple times. Installed adjustable rear LCAs and front camber bolts to bring everything back to factory spec. I even have bump steer correction kit.

What are the current alignment specs? Within spec can still be wildly out and drive funny.

What tires? How old?

If it's not that, I'd have a friend drive it, it sounds like it might be some sort of placebo.

[Spacemane969]

Originally Posted by wparsons

What are the current alignment specs? Within spec can still be wildly out and drive funny.

What tires? How old?

If it's not that, I'd have a friend drive it, it sounds like it might be some sort of placebo.

Alignment is buttoned up really nicely, I make sure that it's better than factory but still within OEM ranges. I think about placebo alot, I might have to do a swap drive with something stock, but I know something just doesn't feel right.

I'm also still having creaking and clunking in the end links although it's not as severe ,as I've adjusted it after install. I've seen so many different opinions on install, some say that the lengths don't have to be equal left to right, some say they have to be absolutely perfect. I noticed the other day that somehow my right wheel measures up to 5/8" higher than my left wheel on completely flat ground(measured to fender). Not sure if that is acceptable or normal.