Expected max mileage for 13 FR-S?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

NA Subarus have been pretty damn bulletproof from the 90's onward aside from having a bit of oil consumption issues (whether it's leaking out the seals or burning it). This car has been pretty decent, I have reasonable confidence to 150k miles, 200k miles is a question mark imho but it's not too expensive to fix if you don't go through a dealership and order all new parts.

So, out of curiousity why do you think 200K is a question mark?

I'm at about 185,000 miles, including the spring recall work, and no issues so far.

Then again, I've had "good luck" with almost all my cars, and never have been "afraid" of cars with miles, including two GM vehicles that had nearly 300,000 miles on each. I can think of 10 cars I've owned that had more than 150,000 miles on when I traded them in that were all still running when I did so. Heck I own a Mustang, Suburban, and a Scion right now that are all over 120,000 miles and one Honda that's over 210K.

One of them had a second engine, but it was installed under warranty and went another 250,000 miles with the second engine. All the others, had their original motors, transmissions and had only minor (under $1000) repairs done to them.

[Grady]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

So, out of curiousity why do you think 200K is a question mark?

I'm at about 185,000 miles, including the spring recall work, and no issues so far.

Then again, I've had "good luck" with almost all my cars, and never have been "afraid" of cars with miles, including two GM vehicles that had nearly 300,000 miles on each. I can think of 10 cars I've owned that had more than 150,000 miles on when I traded them in that were all still running when I did so. Heck I own a Mustang, Suburban, and a Scion right now that are all over 120,000 miles and one Honda that's over 210K.

One of them had a second engine, but it was installed under warranty and went another 250,000 miles with the second engine. All the others, had their original motors, transmissions and had only minor (under $1000) repairs done to them.

People do not realize it is all about the preventative maintenance.

[Sapphireho]

My highest mileage car in my life with original motor and tranny was a 1982 Honda civic 4 door. 350k miles. It was still running when I sold it to the state as a gross polluter, and still getting 30 mpg.

Still had original clutch.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

NA Subarus have been pretty damn bulletproof from the 90's onward aside from having a bit of oil consumption issues (whether it's leaking out the seals or burning it). This car has been pretty decent, I have reasonable confidence to 150k miles, 200k miles is a question mark imho but it's not too expensive to fix if you don't go through a dealership and order all new parts.

We shall see.
Starting a track career in it's "retirement" at 140,000 miles.

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[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

So, out of curiousity why do you think 200K is a question mark?

I'm at about 185,000 miles, including the spring recall work, and no issues so far.

Then again, I've had "good luck" with almost all my cars, and never have been "afraid" of cars with miles, including two GM vehicles that had nearly 300,000 miles on each. I can think of 10 cars I've owned that had more than 150,000 miles on when I traded them in that were all still running when I did so. Heck I own a Mustang, Suburban, and a Scion right now that are all over 120,000 miles and one Honda that's over 210K.

One of them had a second engine, but it was installed under warranty and went another 250,000 miles with the second engine. All the others, had their original motors, transmissions and had only minor (under $1000) repairs done to them.

Because I think that's generally beyond the design life of a modern vehicle and we will start seeing more expensive failures then the typical few hundred dollars worth of consumables. I have no idea what they will be, I don't think anyone does, but a manufacturer who's designing all non-consumable components to last >200k miles flawlessly is giving up profit margin to do so.

I'll cross 100k miles in the coming weeks on my car, like I said before, high confidence in crossing 150k miles without major incident just like many of your vehicles (unless it's an issue related to hpde/tt use). Sold my truck at 210k miles and it was starting to need more then the little maintenance items, things like timing chains and catalytic converters and hvac repairs.

Which reminds me, I need to go shore up my front bumper this weekend, it's flapping in the breeze...

[CB750F]

Originally Posted by aghuman

Yea just the single swap out at the equivalent of 130k miles. It wasn’t horrendous when I did it, just a minor noise but based on the other experiences people on this forum went through I knew it was the safe bet to just get it done with.

Cool, I think I'll go buy a new TOB, I'm at 60k miles, might bring to shop this yr. No noise yet but

[MuseChaser]

Almost without exception, the reason I've had to "retire" a vehicle over the years has been salt and the subsequent total corrosion of the frame/unibody/body panels, brake and fuel lines, gas tanks, mounting points, etc. Eventually it gets so bad and so unenjoyable to fight that stuff that I give up and move on to the next sacrificial vehicular offering to the sodium sowers. We aim for at least 200k miles, and have beens successful everytime...our record so far was a Volvo 240 with 275k on it, with a Bmw 325i, a Ford Aerostar, and a Benz ML430 all close behind with about 235k each, give or take. Every vehicle still ran great engine and tranny wise. The only engine trouble I've ever had was dealer/recall-induced via our FR-S. Did have to replace the transmission in our current ML500, but that was evil used car criminal dealership induced.

[midenginebias]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Because I think that's generally beyond the design life of a modern vehicle and we will start seeing more expensive failures then the typical few hundred dollars worth of consumables. I have no idea what they will be, I don't think anyone does, but a manufacturer who's designing all non-consumable components to last >200k miles flawlessly is giving up profit margin to do so.

I'll cross 100k miles in the coming weeks on my car, like I said before, high confidence in crossing 150k miles without major incident just like many of your vehicles (unless it's an issue related to hpde/tt use). Sold my truck at 210k miles and it was starting to need more then the little maintenance items, things like timing chains and catalytic converters and hvac repairs.

Which reminds me, I need to go shore up my front bumper this weekend, it's flapping in the breeze...

Had a technician talk to different engineers years ago. He told me VW/Range Rover optimally were engineered to 200,000 miles, Toyota and Lexus up to 300,000 miles.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by midenginebias

Had a technician talk to different engineers years ago. He told me VW/Range Rover optimally were engineered to 200,000 miles, Toyota and Lexus up to 300,000 miles.

YMMV.

most people that i've known that had a range rover or vw would laugh at that.

[BrahmaBull1990]

Originally Posted by soundman98

YMMV.

most people that i've known that had a range rover or vw would laugh at that.

Can confirm; I am laughing.

My 2008 Land Rover LR2 died a couple months ago. Doc called it at 140,000. The transmission slipped when cold, coil packs were exploding, and the last (new) issue was the temp gauge started bouncing and it died outside of Autozone.

It also had a cool feature where the entire dash would reset sometimes going over a bump.

[RickyRacer]

this car rides like trash after 150k.. suspension bushings dont last... OEM replacements cost an arm and a leg... or you can go the cheapo solid bushings route and pretend to be a ricer.... the ride will be even worse than a salty worn set of OEM bushings.. but you can tell your wife / passenger you "want it that way" :P :P

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by RickyRacer

this car rides like trash after 150k..

I'm at 180,000+ and haven't really noticed much change in the ride. Then again, it could be the frog in a boiling pot thing....

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I'm at 180,000+ and haven't really noticed much change in the ride. Then again, it could be the frog in a boiling pot thing....

Suppose it may depend on how those miles are piled on.
Never put much trust into any anecdotal evidence when it comes to wear and tear on a car and how many miles it will "last" anyway. Different driving styles, road/weather conditions and maintenance levels all will affect how long a car will last more than a set number of miles. Not like there is some timer hooked up to the odometer that says "OK that's 100,001 miles start breaking down".

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Suppose it may depend on how those miles are piled on.

True, 95% of those miles (a number I made up but most likely a low estimate) are on relatively smooth, pothole free roads so it probably qualifies are "light wear and tear"