Toyota 1.8l 2ZZGE - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

rx3 · 05-30-2020, 06:20 PM

Didn't see this swap before:
http://racingbazar.com/de/racecars/o...-attack-205032

Engine is probably about 60 kg lighter than stock, rpm is higher (transmission deals with less torque in comparison) and max power (turboed) is probably about the same.

PulsarBeeerz · 05-30-2020, 06:45 PM

I loved that engine in my old Celica. I can't believe someone swapped it in this chassis. I wish we had gotten a 2.0L version of it.

KR-S · 05-31-2020, 02:47 AM

That's fucking amazing.

86MLR · 05-31-2020, 03:32 AM

That's a bit of power out of that little mill.

Irace86.2.0 · 05-31-2020, 12:36 PM

I feel like a K20 would be better, but it is cool to see a Toyota engine in there.

why? · 05-31-2020, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I feel like a K20 would be better, but it is cool to see a Toyota engine in there.

people have done absolutely bonkers things with the 2zz's in the Lotus. Someone even twin charged one. Power claims ranged from 400-800 depending on where you find the info.

DarkPira7e · 05-31-2020, 04:48 PM

I've always thought about the 2zz in our car. Engine swapping something that is less powerful seems silly unless you have mad expendable cash though. Sure, if I had infinite money, mine would have a 2zz or a 3s-GTE. can't stand Subaru engines

Irace86.2.0 · 05-31-2020, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by why?

people have done absolutely bonkers things with the 2zz's in the Lotus. Someone even twin charged one. Power claims ranged from 400-800 depending on where you find the info.

Anything can be done with money like that guy, but then again, the guy was pulling the motor because he had metal in the oil pan, so reliability? K swaps are super common on the Lotus platform. Plus, the zz motors were designed to compete with the B18--not the K20. I just think there is more reliability, more cheap gains and more aftermarket support for a K swap.

PulsarBeeerz · 05-31-2020, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Anything can be done with money like that guy, but then again, the guy was pulling the motor because he had metal in the oil pan, so reliability? K swaps are super common on the Lotus platform. Plus, the zz motors were designed to compete with the B18--not the K20. I just think there is more reliability, more cheap gains and more aftermarket support for a K swap.

Nothing wrong with a very unique build. imo

rx3 · 06-06-2020, 02:07 PM

FWIW
The reason why they selected a Toyota engine is probably related to the racing regulations. When an engine is swapped one can only use an engine from the same brand.

Copy · 06-07-2020, 01:04 AM

Ronin's lotus was a beast! Interesting that they swapped a 2ZZ motor into the 86.

Smaay · 05-03-2021, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Copy

Ronin's lotus was a beast! Interesting that they swapped a 2ZZ motor into the 86.

I built part of his engine. Ronin was nothing before he met me. One day he called me out of the blue and asked me to check his valve clearances. then he saw my custom return fuel system on my celica. I took him for a ride when I was making 550 to the wheels and he nearly shit himself. then I introduced him to my fabricator. It went downhill from there. We all built the Ronin beast.

zze86 · 06-10-2021, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Smaay

I built part of his engine. Ronin was nothing before he met me. One day he called me out of the blue and asked me to check his valve clearances. then he saw my custom return fuel system on my celica. I took him for a ride when I was making 550 to the wheels and he nearly shit himself. then I introduced him to my fabricator. It went downhill from there. We all built the Ronin beast.

Since the link is dead, I'm curious how you guys did the motor mounts? The 2zzge doesn't have any good motor mount provisions for a RWD application since the OEM engine mounts are on the PS side (so pointed forward in a RWD application) and on the trans bellhousing. IIRC there are some M12 bolt holes that could possibly be used but seem undersized...

Would be interested in seeing how they set this up if anybody still has pictures? 2zzge is, IMO, the best sounding 4-cylinder out there.

Smaay · 06-23-2021, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by zze86

Since the link is dead, I'm curious how you guys did the motor mounts? The 2zzge doesn't have any good motor mount provisions for a RWD application since the OEM engine mounts are on the PS side (so pointed forward in a RWD application) and on the trans bellhousing. IIRC there are some M12 bolt holes that could possibly be used but seem undersized...

Would be interested in seeing how they set this up if anybody still has pictures? 2zzge is, IMO, the best sounding 4-cylinder out there.

we fabbed up custom mounts to the E153 trans that was used.

05-30-2020, 06:20 PM	#1
rx3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Europe Posts: 350 Thanks: 53 Thanked 114 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota 1.8l 2ZZGE Didn't see this swap before: http://racingbazar.com/de/racecars/o...-attack-205032 Engine is probably about 60 kg lighter than stock, rpm is higher (transmission deals with less torque in comparison) and max power (turboed) is probably about the same.

05-31-2020, 03:32 AM	#4
86MLR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto Location: Sydney Posts: 2,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's a bit of power out of that little mill. __________________ Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311 I'm only here for the biscuits

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PulsarBeeerz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: JRSC BRZ SOLD Location: Ohio Posts: 934 Thanks: 676 Thanked 739 Times in 396 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I loved that engine in my old Celica. I can't believe someone swapped it in this chassis. I wish we had gotten a 2.0L version of it.

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DarkPira7e Rust bucket enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS Location: Vermont Posts: 3,932 Thanks: 3,198 Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've always thought about the 2zz in our car. Engine swapping something that is less powerful seems silly unless you have mad expendable cash though. Sure, if I had infinite money, mine would have a 2zz or a 3s-GTE. can't stand Subaru engines

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rx3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Europe Posts: 350 Thanks: 53 Thanked 114 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FWIW The reason why they selected a Toyota engine is probably related to the racing regulations. When an engine is swapped one can only use an engine from the same brand.

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Copy Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Drives: GR Corolla CE Location: Oklahoma Posts: 74 Thanks: 69 Thanked 66 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ronin's lotus was a beast! Interesting that they swapped a 2ZZ motor into the 86.

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