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Old 03-24-2021, 02:49 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Everything we know about PP Brembos

Given how much positive feedback I got on the topic about wheel fitment for PP Brembos,
and how many things most people still don't know about them,
I decided to start a new topic about the brakes themselves.

OEM Subaru part numbers
  • 26292CA070 caliper front left
  • 26292CA060 caliper front right
  • 26261FE000 caliper bracket / tie bar front
  • 901120131 front caliper M12x54 bolt (need 4)
  • 26300FE001 rotor front (single, need 2)
  • 26296FE100 pads front (4 pads)
  • 26232FE010 front pad retaining clip
  • 26231FE030 front caliper pin (need 4)
  • 26231FE040 pin retaining clip (need 4 in the front, same in the rear)
  • 26540CA030 brake hose front left
  • 26540CA020 brake hose front right
  • 26290CA030 rotor dust shield left front
  • 26290CA020 rotor dust shield right front
  • 26297CA010 caliper repair kit front
  • 26692CA070 caliper rear left
  • 26692CA060 caliper rear right
  • 901000326 rear caliper bolt (need 4)
  • 26700CA000 rotor rear (single, need 2)
  • 26696FG000 pads rear (4 pads)
  • 26632FE001 rear pad retaining clip
  • 26631FE000 rear caliper pin (need 4)
  • 26231FE040 pin retaining clip (need 4 in the rear, same in the front)
  • 26541CA050 brake hose rear left
  • 26541CA040 brake hose rear right
  • 26704VA010 rotor dust shield left rear
  • 26704VA000 rotor dust shield right rear
  • 26697FG000 caliper repair kit rear
  • Anything else worth mentioning?
See exploded views for other minor stuff like bolts, pins, etc.: front, rear.

Torque specs
Front caliper bolts: 88.5 ft·lb or 120 Nm (19 mm socket)
Rear caliper bolts: 53.8 ft·lb or 73 Nm (17 mm socket)
Bleeder valves: 14.8 ft·lb or 20 N·m (11 mm)

The rotors have two M8x1.25 holes each for bolts to simplify removal.

Piston sizes
4x40 mm front [citation needed]
2x40 mm rear [citation needed]

Compatible rotors
Fronts are 326x30mm, rears are 316x20mm
  • Centric C-TEK Standard 121.47019 front
  • Centric C-TEK Standard 121.47043 rear
  • Centric Premium 125.47019 front
  • Centric Premium 125.47043 rear
  • DBA 654-10 front
  • DBA 4654S-10 front
  • DBA 5654GLDXS-10 front
  • DBA 42656S-10 rear
  • Girodisc A1-007 5x100 front (more info)
  • Girodisc A2-095 5x100 and 5x114 dual drilled rear (more info)
  • Paragon 2-piece front (link)
Compatible pads
  • FMSI D numbers: D1001 front, D961 rear
  • WVA codes: 23092 or 23325 front, 21580 or 23323 rear
  • CSG.C1.1001.15 front
  • CSG.C2.1001.15 front
  • CSG.C2.961.14 rear
  • CSG.CE2.1001.15 front
  • CSG.CX1.1001.15 front
  • CSG.CE1.961.14 rear
  • DBA DB1678XP front (link)
  • DBA DB1521XP rear (link)
  • Ferodo DS2500 FRP3067H front
  • Ferodo DS2500 FCP1562H rear
  • Hawk HPS HB453F.585 front
  • Hawk HPS HB180F.560 rear
  • PowerStop Z23 Z23-1001 front
  • PowerStop Z23 Z23-961 rear
  • PowerStop Z23 Z26-1001 front
  • PowerStop Z23 Z26-961 rear
  • Project U Racing 999 R906
  • Project U Club Racer PCR09F906
  • StopTech Sport 309.10010 front
  • StopTech Sport 309.09610 rear

Compatible kits
  • Centric front hardware kit 117.47018
  • Centric front dust boots and inner seals kit 143.34039
  • Centric rear dust boots and inner seals kit 143.35031 (same as half of 143.34039)

Please post any other useful information you might know about these!

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They use the standard OEM Brake pad sizing for Subaru, which is common to other OE Brembo systems (Can be referenced in the Brembo attachments). This typically also applies to the 4pot/2pot Brembo GT system

See attachments


Project Mu shape code:

  • Front - F906 & F506
  • Rear - R906

WVA code:

  • Front - 23092 or 23325
  • Rear - 21580 or 23323



Attached Brembo pdfs also show information about approximate pad width, height, thickness, though I'm sure there is some allowable play in the exact dimensions among parts makers
  • Front: 131.8 W x 77.3 H x 15 Thk [mm]
  • Rear: 76.6 W x 65.4 H x 14.3 Thk [mm]
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File Type: pdf F906 - BBK Front.pdf (29.1 KB, 467 views)
File Type: pdf R906 - BBK Rear.pdf (26.3 KB, 350 views)
File Type: pdf Brembo_P54039N_en.pdf (138.6 KB, 397 views)
File Type: pdf Brembo_P56048N_en.pdf (140.4 KB, 320 views)

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Can we confirm which years of WRX STI Brembo pads will fit with the BRZ/86 Brembo's? Currently I'd pretty confident the 08+ STI size pads are cross compatible.
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Another 2-piece rotor alternative are Girodisc rotors. More info in this thread: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140428

Front fitment (A1-007) is confirmed to fit, but rear is still up in the air.
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Also, the FMSI D Number (defines the pad shape, etc.) are listed below:

Front Pads: D1001
Rear Pads: D961

These shapes are common between WRX STi (04-17) and the PP Brembos.

I believe the front pad shape is used for a lot of different cars with OEM Brembo brake setups, including WRX STi (04-17), Lancer Evo, Civic Type R, and others. The rears are common with WRX STi (04-17) again obviously, Lancer Evo, G35/350Z with Brembo options, and others. Just something to keep in mind while you're shopping for pads.
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Can we confirm which years of WRX STI Brembo pads will fit with the BRZ/86 Brembo's? Currently I'd pretty confident the 08+ STI size pads are cross compatible.

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Also, the FMSI D Number (defines the pad shape, etc.) are listed below:

Front Pads: D1001
Rear Pads: D961

These shapes are common between WRX STi (04-17) and the PP Brembos.

I believe the front pad shape is used for a lot of different cars with OEM Brembo brake setups, including WRX STi (04-17), Lancer Evo, Civic Type R, and others. The rears are common with WRX STi (04-17) again obviously, Lancer Evo, G35/350Z with Brembo options, and others. Just something to keep in mind while you're shopping for pads.



Also the PDFs don't do a good job of recapturing the additional compatibility info in the tabs from Brembo parts site


For others, feel free to browse:
86 https://www.bremboparts.com/asiapaci...ey/000121184-1

BRZ https://www.bremboparts.com/asiapaci...-0/000124014-1


WRX STI https://www.bremboparts.com/asiapaci...wd/000100922-1
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I used the PowerStop Z23 carbon fiber pads on my last car, and they were excellent for a street pad. Virtually no noise or brake dust, but with decent initial bite and fade resistance for "spirited" canyon runs. After experiencing the massive amounts of brake dust from the stock pads, I'll be swapping them out ASAP.

The PowerStop Z23 front part number is Z23-1001 and rear part number is Z23-961.

There are also the Z26 carbon fiber / ceramic pads, which are supposed to be a further step up in performance. Part numbers for those are Z26-1001 and Z26-961.

They also make some "stock replacement" pads (Z16 and Z17) and some "Track Day" pads, and some drilled and slotted rotors. They also sell some pads and rotors together in kits. You can search what's available at www.powerstop.com, and they link to several online vendors.

There are also lots of other pads available to fit the OEM Brembo's listed on www.rockauto.com.
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StopTech Sport 309.10010 front pads and 309.09610 rear pads work well. Used them for one season of autocross and two track days and I'm very happy with them.
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