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Old 03-22-2020, 02:14 PM   #15
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Also, I forgot to ask, I have read online that applying a paint pen/clear coat matching the paint over the scratch, then proceeding to buff and wax would help in covering the scratch. Do you have any idea if that would help in the process?
i can understand the theory. my experience is that most scratches are narrower than the application point of the paint pens, so you end up with an overlapping hump of paint outside of the scratch that would then need to be dealt with via wet sanding and a ton more buffing and polishing.

visually, anything protruding from the paint is going to be dramatically more noticeable (mol-e-mol-e-MOL-EEEE) than a scratch-depth indentation into the body work.

the important thing here is that there's no going back after using the paint pen, only significantly harder/more work. my preference is to buff it out and minimize the scratch first. after that, you make the personal determination whether the outcome of that initial process is 'good enough' or if enough of the paint was removed that adding material to it would justify the additional time and effort it would take. if you go with the paint pen, then you NEED sanding blocks so you're sanding only the 'hump', and not putting any pressure on the surrounding area.

with my cars at least, buffing has always been enough to minimize the appearance of the scratches to the point that while some of the scratches could benefit to adding paint, i don't see a point in the additional time and work that it creates, because the end result is still going to be noticeable in some way.
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Hello everyone, guys, so as not to constantly have problems with various damages and scratches on the car body, you need to protect it with a special tool and then you will not have to often carry out repairs, grinding and painting the body. I have been using ceramic car coating for a long time, this is an excellent method of protecting paintwork from unwanted scratches and damage.

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Hello everyone, guys, so as not to constantly have problems with various damages and scratches on the car body, you need to protect it with a special tool and then you will not have to often carry out repairs, grinding and painting the body.
Speaking of special tools.... what exactly is this special tool you are recommending? I have a hammer... perhaps I could pre-dent the car in various commonly dented places, that way if I do nick it while driving I won't care as much.

In a more serious response to the OP... I tend not to worry too much about scratches and small dings; maintaining a car to "show" standards is just too stressful for me that it interferes and reduces my joy in driving my cars, and I LOVE to drive. If I get a chip where rust could develop if left untreated, I usually use a paint pen or small spray can of matched paint. If it's a spray can, I spray a little puddle into a cap or cup, then dab it into the chip with a toothpick a little at a time, let it dry, repeat, until the chip is filled to just above the surface of the rest of the paint, then sand/polish down with increasingly fine wet sandpaper. Wax and forget.

Another trick is using a rag dampened with acetone to remove a scratch. It kind of dissolves the paint and moves it into the scratch. Works surprisingly well, but go slow and stay as close to just the scratch as you can; it also dissolves the clearcoat, of course. Wax afterwards.

Again, these are not perfect methods for show cars, nor do they make invisible repairs. They do help hide imperfections a bit, and prevent rust from exposed areas.
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The body shop can completely change it and give an awesome look. However the cost is there, but at the end, you will be more than happy with output.
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The body shop can completely change it and give an awesome look. However the cost is there, but at the end, you will be more than happy with output.
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Full body PPF is going to cost you well more than what it's worth. I have had clients who would not even consider full body PPF on a $150,000 car. Never the less a twin. However, beauty and value is in the eye of the beholder. Just Front End PPF on twins we charge around $2,250. I'd expect to front around $5,000 - $6,500 depending on the shop if you truly want full body ppf.

Typically speaking, if the scratch catches your fingernail it's well through your clear coat and down to the metal. That scratch looks incredibly deep. You could attempt to cut / buff it out however if it's through the clear coat that really isn't going to do much for you outside of just cutting clear to cut clear.

Your best option would probably be to have an autobody shop address it.
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you can probably get it to look really good from 5-10ft out



I've had success doing similar to this video, can definitely tell up close and scrutinizing, but comes out pretty good for a daily driver.
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