All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[cueball89]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Questions I still have:
...and then a bunch of nerdy suspension technical stuff I won't find out until I'm underneath the car.

Also interested in these things. I wish someone would have jammed a camera under the car or in the wheel wells to look at the suspension.




Took a few guesses but should be close enough. Area under the curve looks great to me.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by cueball89

Also interested in these things. I wish someone would have jammed a camera under the car or in the wheel wells to look at the suspension.




Took a few guesses but should be close enough. Area under the curve looks great to me.

I think some aftermarket vendors do what you just did lol

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

They eliminated the torque dip at the cost of the European market?

Europeans probably preferred their Spinach dip over Torque dip.

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by olsonpg

Who in their right mind would get the new brz over a 400z?

Someone who buys based on weight and cylinder count. If you're wiling to get something as big as the Z why not get a Corvette? I really don't want a sports car over 3000lbs so my choices are few.

[CBR600RR]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

I dont mind the interior as much now after letting it stew for a bit, but what bugs me the most is that the touchscreen looks like a 90's era tablet stuck onto the dash or hanging off the vents...
and it looks like a completely separate piece that doesnt fit with the design elements of the hvac controls below it.

The fact that the dash doesnt really have a cohesive design compared to the first gen doesnt help it.
Its why i hope the Toyota version looks a little better on the inside with whatever screen setup they're going to end up using.

I dont like digital clusters all that much, this one looks mostly fine.....since all it looks like is that they just made the current analog one into a digital version and enclosed it in a boxer shaped screen bezel.

90's era tablet?!?!?! What is that? not sure those existed in the 90's

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Read the link.

I did. Nothing in there suggested a swap wouldn't work or be a good idea or be worse/more expensive.

[cueball89]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I think some aftermarket vendors do what you just did lol

Haha. We have the Subaru provided numbers for the FA20. We know the FA24 has 228hp and 171 ftlbs of torque at 7000rpm and 130hp and 184ftlbs of torque at 3700 rpm. The curve looks pretty flat in the instrument cluster. Close enough.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I did. Nothing in there suggested a swap wouldn't work or be a good idea or be worse/more expensive.

Didn't read well then.
It would certainly work.
Would be "easier" than some but far from drop in, plug and play.
It remains to be seen what power can be wrung out of it vs the known current swaps. The investment just may not pay off.
Probably three or even four years away from being able to pick up cheap(ish) used engines anyway so half the people interested will either be in something new or a gen 2 and will no longer care.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by CBR600RR

90's era tablet?!?!?! What is that? not sure those existed in the 90's

Sure they did

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Someone who buys based on weight and cylinder count. If you're wiling to get something as big as the Z why not get a Corvette? I really don't want a sports car over 3000lbs so my choices are few.

Aesthetics, ease of tuning, aesthetics, JDM, aesthetics, manual transmission (applies to C8), aesthetics, can't believe I'm able to say this but build quality, aesthetics, higher MSRP, aesthetics, size/too long wheelbase, aesthetics. Did I mention aesthetics?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Aesthetics, ease of tuning, aesthetics, JDM, aesthetics, manual transmission (applies to C8), aesthetics, can't believe I'm able to say this but build quality, aesthetics, higher MSRP, aesthetics, size/too long wheelbase, aesthetics. Did I mention aesthetics?

What he said^


I can not find this attractive no matter how hard I squint

[AnalogMan]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

If you're wiling to get something as big as the Z why not get a Corvette?

I personally would never consider the C8 Corvette (despite the 'numbers', 0-60, 1/4 mile, Nurburgring lap times, mid-engine low polar moment of inertia, etc. etc. etc.) mostly because it's not available with a manual transmission. And likely never will be (it's too hard and expensive for GM to figure out a way to route a shifter linkage past the mid-engine to the transmission). As long as my hips and knees hold out, for me a manual is still an absolute must-have deal-breaker.

That, and the legendary GM build quality. Been there, done that, don't need to do it again. Do a little internet search for C8 Corvette problems and see what's popping up already. No thanks. I'm too old (and impatient) to put up with that kind of crap. I want to spend my remaining time driving the car, and I don't mean back and forth to the dealer for repairs.

I'd gladly trade off some 'numbers' for a somewhat (and irrelevantly) slower Nissan Z with a stick, and spend much less time at the dealer.

[gymratter]

some more non-PR pics

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Dake

Looking at the side profile, the front end is just too flat.

????