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raven1231 · 04-25-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AceHeader-MT

Hey Raven, you're 1/2 correct.

Yes, we aim for 200+ HP on a true dyno pull.

If we didn't care how it drove our cars wouldn't be so fast

Was directed towards op sir not you at all lol

FRS Justin · 04-25-2015, 04:55 PM

PPE is my choice, made over 200hp with header and delicious tune stg 2 e85

jonbonazza · 04-26-2015, 09:15 PM

An UEL header will ultimately make a bit less power, but it will be "more fun" on the street as the power is shifted down the power band and the torque dip is eliminated. The PTuning and Tomei EL headers are fantastic, but they aren't as fun to drive on the street unless you rev out every shift and the torque dip will still be there at least to some degree. If this is primiarly a DD, I strongly suggest a UEL header.

shu5892001 · 04-26-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jonbonazza

An UEL header will ultimately make a bit less power, but it will be "more fun" on the street as the power is shifted down the power band and the torque dip is eliminated. The PTuning and Tomei EL headers are fantastic, but they aren't as fun to drive on the street unless you rev out every shift and the torque dip will still be there at least to some degree. If this is primiarly a DD, I strongly suggest a UEL header.

I wanted to go EL primarily for the sound

Turdinator · 04-28-2015, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jonbonazza

An UEL header will ultimately make a bit less power, but it will be "more fun" on the street as the power is shifted down the power band and the torque dip is eliminated. The PTuning and Tomei EL headers are fantastic, but they aren't as fun to drive on the street unless you rev out every shift and the torque dip will still be there at least to some degree. If this is primiarly a DD, I strongly suggest a UEL header.

I see this opinion on the forums a lot. Fun on the street is very subjective. I personally enjoy working through the gears and would rather downshift into the powerband than chug along at a low rpm.

jonbonazza · 04-28-2015, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Turdinator

I see this opinion on the forums a lot. Fun on the street is very subjective. I personally enjoy working through the gears and would rather downshift into the powerband than chug along at a low rpm.

Uel is most fun around 3-5k rpm. I dont think youll be downshifting to anywhere higher than that. And you def wont be chugging.

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Chriswongbrz · 01-13-2018, 10:56 PM

I wonder how is clubsport compared to ace?

ThatAsianBradah · 01-14-2018, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chriswongbrz

I wonder how is clubsport compared to ace?

You mean the Club Sport Headers made by ACE compared to the ACE Type A Headers?

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churchx · 01-14-2018, 04:13 AM

Chriswongbrz: CS400 primary purpose was better clearance for RHD twins. Performance relative to Type A/350 is a bit lower/optimisation moved even at lower rpms for ClubSport. Also it was at some point made using "Type B" quicker slip-on robo welds, resulting in cheaper product (but IIRC Ace solved problems with manufacturing speed of A welding, so not sure B-ness in lower cost (but less handwork/a bit heavier headers) still holds true).
If you have normal LHD car, header to get from Ace is A/350. If RHD, CS400, or if you track a lot, A/250.

Chriswongbrz · 01-22-2018, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

You mean the Club Sport Headers made by ACE compared to the ACE Type A Headers?

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Yes

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