12-17-2020, 11:41 AM | #379 |
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12-17-2020, 12:18 PM | #380 | |
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there's a good amount of modern production cars that are long term reliable when tracked... Look at basically any modern GM performance vehicle or something like the Veloster N. They are so confident in their longterm reliability that they warranty track-use...
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It's been accepted for a while that an oil-cooler (or heat exchanger) is a must-have on these cars for aggressive use. Running 5W30 helps a little, but it isn't enough to solve the issue |
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Anyway, good synthetic oil at 270-275F isn't a problem for the oil itself (indeed 300+ shouldn't be a prob), but you should change it often and probably run at least 30, maybe 40 weight at those temps IMO... Last edited by ZDan; 12-18-2020 at 10:09 AM. |
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Oil cooler is a bandaid for people who want to run the wrong oil for their intended purpose. |
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IMO our cars only need appropriate brake pads and DOT4 or 5.1 brake fluid to track. Better tires and camber bolts would be a good idea, and still generally considered "stock"...
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Oh yeah, they don't need much. But the point is, you can take an SS 1LE off the showroom floor right to the track. Beat the shit out of it, you'll likely be one of the quickest people at any HPDE, and it'll do it reliably with a track warranty to boot.
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Yup modern synthetic oils can live well into the 300's with no problems at all. I think the issue is specific to the overall design of the oiling systems, if the motors are able to maintain pressure at higher temps, if the motors have tolerances that allow heavier weight oils, etc. FA20's may have problems running in the upper 200's due to oil pressure limitations + thinner oil requirements, but other motors (factory motors) run in that range as normal. Just part of the larger engineering picture. |
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And agreed, I wouldn't hesitate to track any Honda sport(y) car (that's naturally aspirated). Plenty of others as well.
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Until it overheats and goes into limp mode, because the cooling system isn't track ready.
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