Clutch pedal loud squeak

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Brndn704

Why does a clutch need to breath? Maybe I'm missing something here, but that is a poor design. I've owned several MT cars and every one of them had an enclosed, completely sealed off transmission. Clutches don't get hot unless you're a terrible driver and ride the piss out of it. Hmm, just doesn't seem like a good design IMO.

All MT have vents someplace they may not have been readily obvious but they are there. You are correct that a bad driver can over heat a clutch but even the very best creates heat. The whole way they work is through friction after all. The venting is there to permit the dust that is created to be removed. Every time you use the clutch you create a small amount of dust and if that was contained to the housing you would eventually have everything gummed up solid.


At least that is what I was told by the guy that rebuilt the tranny in my 55 Chev when I asked about the gaps in the top and bottom.

[Tt3Sheppard]

What is stopping salt dust from getting in there for us in the colder climates

[SC David]

Anecdotally, I've been driving around my car for about one year and 12k miles with a squeaky clutch, and nothing has come of it. Took it into the dealer last year when the problem came about, they drove it around with me and replicated the noise, and told me it's "normal." Stupid.

Perhaps unrelatedly, the flywheel makes a bit more chatter noise now than it did one year ago. Driveability is the same (read: fine). Annoyance level is the same.

[roddy]

I didn't have time to read through all 18 pages to see if anyone else has posted this experience, so sorry if it is a re-post. My car is just starting to make this noise after a good drive, and I may have a solution...


Years ago, I had a Civic that did this, and it took me a while to figure it out. I tried to lube the pivot point where the rod from the slave cyl meets the clutch fork, and that would mask the issue for a bit, but it would always come back. Eventually, I flushed out the "clutch fluid" and replaced it with new brake fluid. The noise went away and never came back. A co-worker had this issue with his Civic last year, and I suggested he try the same thing. He did and the noise went away.
I don't know why it works (probably something to do with brake fluid being hygroscopic and absorbing moisture from the air), but it has for me in the past, and I'm betting new fluid will make a difference. For the $5 worth of fluid and a few minutes of your time, it is worth a try before dismissing the idea.

[FRS-Learner]

'14 Scion FR-S 20k

So I ended up taking my car to the dealership for this issue. I was getting this noise whether the engine was on/off, everything up to operating temperature or whether everything was ice cold. Whether I have been driving the car for 1 second or 6+ hours. I took it in and the dealer tried to lube whatever they needed to lube and it did not work. So they told me they were going to keep the car in, "call Toyota" and ask them what to look for when they dropped the transmission.

I get a call when everything is done and was told that there are "hot spots on the clutch", results from "dropping the clutch multiple times" but they are going to "help me out on this one". I have NEVER dropped the clutch on this car. They ended up replacing a lot of drivetrain parts and resurfaced the flywheel, not replacing it like some members here have. Maybe because the car has 20k miles??



When I got the car, it definitely felt different. But the clutch didn't feel new to me. I don't know if it's in my head or what, but the clutch definitely does not feel "crisp" when its being engaged. It really feels like when I dropped it off. I hope some of you can chime in to why I get this feeling from the clutch.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by FRS-Learner

When I got the car, it definitely felt different. But the clutch didn't feel new to me. I don't know if it's in my head or what, but the clutch definitely does not feel "crisp" when its being engaged. It really feels like when I dropped it off. I hope some of you can chime in to why I get this feeling from the clutch.

It'll feel that way for a little while. Give it some time to break in.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by FRS-Learner

'14 Scion FR-S 20k

So I ended up taking my car to the dealership for this issue. I was getting this noise whether the engine was on/off, everything up to operating temperature or whether everything was ice cold. Whether I have been driving the car for 1 second or 6+ hours. I took it in and the dealer tried to lube whatever they needed to lube and it did not work. So they told me they were going to keep the car in, "call Toyota" and ask them what to look for when they dropped the transmission.

I get a call when everything is done and was told that there are "hot spots on the clutch", results from "dropping the clutch multiple times" but they are going to "help me out on this one". I have NEVER dropped the clutch on this car. They ended up replacing a lot of drivetrain parts and resurfaced the flywheel, not replacing it like some members here have. Maybe because the car has 20k miles??



When I got the car, it definitely felt different. But the clutch didn't feel new to me. I don't know if it's in my head or what, but the clutch definitely does not feel "crisp" when its being engaged. It really feels like when I dropped it off. I hope some of you can chime in to why I get this feeling from the clutch.

Resurface flywheel? WTF... most of them (dealers) are charging people for new flywheels whether it is being covered under warranty or not. Myself included.

I'm still getting some roughness and vibration while engaging the clutch from a dead stop. It's been around 5000 miles since they replaced mine.

Side note: I've now discovered a leaking CV boot in the driver side half shaft. Not sure if I should even do a warranty claim or just take care of it myself.

[Irace86]

Seems like a lot of dealers just want to do a big service bill and have Subaru/Toyota foot the bill.

My car started smelling funny after a drive home in heavy rain. Smelled like brakes or clutch or burnt oil. We couldnt figure it out and it only was there once at a stoplight but not home. Only other symptom was a window that wasnt defogging well but i wasnt really paying attention and only realized it wasn't defogging well in retrospect. Then I noticed the next day the clitch pedal was squeaky and it felt grainy. It was sqeaky only with the car running. With the car off it felt like butter and no squeaking. I might have even had spongy brake feel but I cant rule out the bad weather on most these symptoms. Especially because I have new rims/tires so things could be just different. Besides the ac n brakes the clutch sqeak was real.

Today it seemed to fix itself. Same symptoms but then after a stop I got back in and everything was fine. So who knows? Hopefully it doesnt return.

[tracerit]

Replying to the two videos in the original post. I've had both noises on my car. Originally with the press down, it was crunchy (in feel) and a bit squeaky. This was due to a worn throw out bearing and it was gone after having the TOB replaced.

A few months later when it started getting cold (30-40s F at night), I started getting a creaky noise when I let the clutch up after pressing down. Pressing down is normal. I brought it to two dealerships wanting them to just lube the clutch fork but they wanted to do the whole transmission. I ended up just lubing it with Lucas Red N Tacky grease and the noise is now gone. I only lubed the upper fork (that's exposed). Forutnately the lower fork inside the transmission is fine.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Those bozos. They only greased the top pivot. Gotta drop the tranny to get to the squeak.

I had forgotten about this post. I tinkered for a while just jiggling the fork to get it to quit squeaking but it kept coming back. Then, out of desperation, I moved the slave out of the way and removed the dust boot from the bell housing. Feeling around in there I discovered I could just barely get my finger on the main pivot.

I smeared a little gob of grease in there as best as I could and poof, squeak eliminated.

I still say transmission should be dropped to really get in there, inspect everything, and do it right but this'll do for now.

[Tt3Sheppard]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I had forgotten about this post. I tinkered for a while just jiggling the fork to get it to quit squeaking but it kept coming back. Then, out of desperation, I moved the slave out of the way and removed the dust boot from the bell housing. Feeling around in there I discovered I could just barely get my finger on the main pivot.

I smeared a little gob of grease in there as best as I could and poof, squeak eliminated.

I still say transmission should be dropped to really get in there, inspect everything, and do it right but this'll do for now.

I did something similar and mine has been ok since my original post about the grease. I think now the only noise I hear is what sounds like a compressing spring when pedal is fully depressed. LOL it's probably the pressure plate fingers about to snap.

[Createddeleted]

Im going to be lazy and not read through all the pages.

My transmission was looked over by SOA several times. Throwout bearing replaced, clutch, pressure plate, multiple greasing etc. The fix? NigLube RX-2 on the clutch fork. No problems since then.

[Keenercarguy]

Is this the sound anyone else was having? It only squeeks during engagement, and regardless of whether or not the car is running. Car drives normally but I just noticed the sound. (The clunking in the video is just the acoustics playing tricks, the only really abnormal sound is the squeeking/squeeling.) @Hawaiian you simply had yours greased, right? Does this sound compare?

[cmihaylov]

Originally Posted by Keenercarguy

Is this the sound anyone else was having? It only squeeks during engagement, and regardless of whether or not the car is running. Car drives normally but I just noticed the sound. (The clunking in the video is just the acoustics playing tricks, the only really abnormal sound is the squeeking/squeeling.)

That's the sound mine was having and the dealer replaced the throwout bearing, pressure plates (because they collapsed) and the clutch itself. Definitely get it checked out.No issues since then - 11k miles.