Who would like to see a boxer diesel in the FT-86?

[Blokatos]

Well about one year ago (maybe a bit more) Subaru launched the first boxer diesel engine, a 2.0 lt 4 cyl. with 150 hp and 350 Nm (or 260 lbft) of torque. I drove a Forester with this engine and the pace is at least impressive.

I've driven several Foresters and Impreza in the past (turbo and N/A) but this diesel amazed me.
Torquey kept pulling strong up to 4300 and didn't had the usual narrow powerband other diesel engines do. I liked it a lot.
Fuel economy is an added bonus of course.

So, who would like to see a diesel version too of the FT-86?

[NESW20]

i'd like to save the n/a engine note. i am actually a BIG diesel fan. i would totally rock a Fiesta diesel for a DD or something similar if ford sold them over here.

in a sports car, the way it sounds is important to me.

-Mike

EDIT: i do think it would be cool to have it as an option.

[Midship Runabout]

Diesel is the future. Not hybrids...

[ichitaka05]

Hm... I prefer regular gas on FT86

[NESW20]

Originally Posted by Dixie Normous

Diesel is the future. Not hybrids...

agreed. i wrote an extensive paper on the topic. the best diesels get 70+mpg, the best hybrids get 50-60mpg.

i'd actually REALLY want to see hydrogen fuel cell vehicles catch on. hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. all we need is a sustainable energy source (cold fusion anyone?) to produce the hydrogen. problem solved.

of course this is only for commuter cars. sports cars still need to drink the high octane.

-Mike

[Midship Runabout]

Originally Posted by NESW20

sports cars still need to drink the high octane.

-Mike

And i agree with you on this. And everything else you said.

[Lexicon101]

Originally Posted by NESW20

agreed. i wrote an extensive paper on the topic. the best diesels get 70+mpg, the best hybrids get 50-60mpg.

i'd actually REALLY want to see hydrogen fuel cell vehicles catch on. hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. all we need is a sustainable energy source (cold fusion anyone?) to produce the hydrogen. problem solved.

of course this is only for commuter cars. sports cars still need to drink the high octane.

-Mike

Good luck on that cold fusion business. I'll stick to wrenching on cars.

[MtnDrvr86]

diesels make great all round commuters. hybrids are only in their element in traffic, or where they can use their regenerative breaking. and VW is making diesel fun, they have a TDiR or something to that affect for the golf..a more powerful, better driving TDI. I love the torque they make though.

[chulooz]

Im pretty sure I want to stick to gas. I wouldn't want to have to put up with a less supportive aftermarket. But I do think that one day hydrogen combustion engines will outperform gasoline.

[Midship Runabout]

Originally Posted by chulooz

I wouldn't want to have to put up with a less supportive aftermarket.

I sure hope your not talking about diesels.

[Matador]

Still have to dig diesel out of the ground, so I'd say no, it's not the future. Hybrids mechanisms can be adopted to just about any motor setup, so I think they are actually the avenue to what we will be using in the future.

[[es vi: eks]]

I think I will stick to gas...
Here as well as buying diesel you also have to buy road user miles so is a bit more hassel and diesel is starting to get up there now.
By the time you buy diesel and miles its close to the price of petrol or even dearer. Its starting not to be worth it in the long run.
Diesel was way cheaper than petrol. but now diesel can go up in price just by itself. In fact it went up again this morning. Petrol had stayed at its normal price so far. Also when petrol goes up Diesel gos up at the same time.

Saying that I would take both for a test drive to see how it drives and make my mind up then. Also I guess it depends on Fuel economy of both versons.

[Lexicon101]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Still have to dig diesel out of the ground

Biodiesel? You don't even have to dig the corn plants up. Just pluck the cobs right off.

Originally Posted by chulooz

Im pretty sure I want to stick to gas. I wouldn't want to have to put up with a less supportive aftermarket. But I do think that one day hydrogen combustion engines will outperform gasoline.

I don't think people are talking about combustion engines when they talk about hydrogen engines. It's essentially an electric motor with a hydrogen power pack. The fusion of hydrogen and oxygen produces only electricity and H2O, or water.. if I'm remembering how this works right.
So it won't be something that goes Vroom, it'll be something that goes Wzzzzz.

[jay4prez]

Originally Posted by Lexicon101

it won't be something that goes Vroom, it'll be something that goes Wzzzzz.

Well that sucks, I envisioned having a 13inch side exit exhausts with a gutted cat.

Originally Posted by Lexicon101

The fusion of hydrogen and oxygen produces only electricity and H2O, or water

So does this mean I'll need to drive with a fish tank or something beneath my car?


On a more serious tip, I don't think I wana put any more h20 into the atmosphere than we already have, this rainy season is ruining my driving days I couldn't imagine it raining because tons of people are driving around in their water producing cars, and what next, airplanes? Can you imagine a jet flying overhead and creating scattered showers?