Vacci-Nation [CLOSED DUE TO DISRESPECTFUL, INSULTING, POLITICAL POSTS

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Wally86

Err on the side of freedom. If people want to skip it, let them skip it. 100% of people don't have to get vaccinated for pretty great results. If we strive for perfection, we'll never get there. Good enough goes a long way.

Greatness comes from dissatisfaction with good enough.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

Second, while the origins of the virus are indeed a subject of intense interest, what specifically does that question have to do with vaccination?

Not a damn thing. It's just a sad desperate attempt to distract and antagonize because freedumb.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Not a damn thing. It's just a sad desperate attempt to distract and antagonize because freedumb.

Also I still believe it’s a racism thing.

And if *not* that, then just an attempt to pass the buck and avoid having to do anything.

It’s the standard “it’s not my fault/problem so I shouldn’t have to change anything about myself to help resolve it.”

[Wally86]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Greatness comes from dissatisfaction with good enough.

On a micro level, I agree 100%.
On a macro level, you're underestimating the lowest common denominator of fellow humans with free will.


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[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by spike021

Also I still believe it’s a racism thing.

And if *not* that, then just an attempt to pass the buck and avoid having to do anything.

It’s the standard “it’s not my fault/problem so I shouldn’t have to change anything about myself to help resolve it.”

Stop wincing about

[Spuds]

Got my second pfizer shot earlier. Not feeling great, and have a 100° fever. About the same as last time, but I think I'm getting over it a bit quicker. Good thing I saved The Reassembler for such an occasion (ty Dadhawk). I think James May might be my spirit animal lol.

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Wally86

On a micro level, I agree 100%.
On a macro level, you're underestimating the lowest common denominator of fellow humans with free will.


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I guess the question is should we let the lowest common denominator calibrate our moral/social compass.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Got my second pfizer shot earlier. Not feeling great, and have a 100° fever. About the same as last time, but I think I'm getting over it a bit quicker. Good thing I saved The Reassembler for such an occasion (ty Dadhawk). I think James May might be my spirit animal lol.

Have you been hydrating a lot? Some people say if they’ve been drinking a lot of water then they notice less side effects.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by spike021

Have you been hydrating a lot? Some people say if they’ve been drinking a lot of water then they notice less side effects.

A bit more than normal I guess. Imma gonna go drink some more water now lol.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Spuds

A bit more than normal I guess. Imma gonna go drink some more water now lol.

Yeah I’m kinda curious. I definitely drink less water than I really should. I’ll probably pick up a Gatorade or something too on Tuesday after my shot.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

I guess the question is should we let the lowest common denominator calibrate our moral/social compass.

we haven't already?

[AnalogMan]

This is what happens when an imbecile (Ron DeSantis) ignores science and common sense, and people go along with it:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fl...out&li=BBnb7Kz

[AnalogMan]

It's funny in a not at all 'funny' way when people conflate and confuse 'freedom' with choosing to not get vaccinated.

As I said before, this is not about someone's personal 'freedom'. Not getting vaccinated is not a ‘personal choice’. A personal choice is something that only affects you alone and no one else. Anyone can do whatever they want in a vacuum, but no one has the right to harm other people. Not getting vaccinated puts many people at risk of illness or death.

It’s like the difference between choosing to drive your car into a wall vs. driving the wrong way in the oncoming lane on the highway. The former might be your own personal choice to kill yourself. But the latter immorally puts many people at great risk against their will.

If you saw someone going the wrong way coming at you in your lane on the highway, you probably wouldn't cheer them on for exercising their personal 'freedom’. Not getting vaccinated forces a risk on anyone that a non-vaccinated person comes in contact with.

Unfortunately, this kind of thinking is why this country will never be rid of the coronavirus. Our future will be one of pandemic spikes and waves, variants coming and going, and fluctuating effectiveness of vaccines. Similar to what happens now with the flu, except that COVID carries a much higher risk of serious long-term health complications, and death.

As a society, we have accepted a high level of disease burden, and death, as being OK (see: Florida). Which I think says a lot about our morality, ethics, intelligence, and simply humanity. Or lack of it.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by AnalogMan

It's funny in a not at all 'funny' way when people conflate and confuse 'freedom' with choosing to not get vaccinated.

As I said before, this is not about someone's personal 'freedom'. Not getting vaccinated is not a ‘personal choice’. A personal choice is something that only affects you alone and no one else. Anyone can do whatever they want in a vacuum, but no one has the right to harm other people. Not getting vaccinated puts many people at risk of illness or death.

It’s like the difference between choosing to drive your car into a wall vs. driving the wrong way in the oncoming lane on the highway. The former might be your own personal choice to kill yourself. But the latter immorally puts many people at great risk against their will.

If you saw someone going the wrong way coming at you in your lane on the highway, you probably wouldn't cheer them on for exercising their personal 'freedom’. Not getting vaccinated forces a risk on anyone that a non-vaccinated person comes in contact with.

Unfortunately, this kind of thinking is why this country will never be rid of the coronavirus. Our future will be one of pandemic spikes and waves, variants coming and going, and fluctuating effectiveness of vaccines. Similar to what happens now with the flu, except that COVID carries a much higher risk of serious long-term health complications, and death.

As a society, we have accepted a high level of disease burden, and death, as being OK (see: Florida). Which I think says a lot about our morality, ethics, intelligence, and simply humanity. Or lack of it.

I have to disagree with this to a point.

Whoever owns that wall isn't going to be happy somebody ran into it. Maybe the person driving their car into a wall has family and friends who are affected. The point here is that we affect the universe and society around us just by existing, so the scope of a "personal choice" is not a black and white boundary.

That being said, strong societies are built around a non-zero-sum outlook. In this case, we can all actually do something at a slight inconvenience for ourselves that overall has great benefit for the society instead of just complaining and fighting. So in that case, getting vaccinated builds a stronger society, while raging against it weakens society.

A strong society protects our freedom of self determination. So logically, it is in the best interest of maintaining our freedoms to consider what benefits society. I chose to get vaccinated in order to creat a stronger society such that I can continue to enjoy the freedom it affords me to continue to choose my path.