Those with supercharger have issues with emissions - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Evil Rocky · 01-25-2017, 10:07 PM

So am will soon be supercharged and one of my concerns is I live in IL and there are emission testing here. I was told if go FI I will most likely fail. My car is 2015 and kind of worried now. So don't know if should wait until after emissions and then put supercharger on or take my chance

I was going to go HKS or JRSC.

Anyone have any info for me?

DJCarbine · 01-25-2017, 10:52 PM

You will not fail in cook county. Ecutek or openflash? Doesn't matter, either one will allow you to pass with flying carpets

PandaSPUR · 01-25-2017, 11:41 PM

You could keep your cats when adding a supercharger, wont even fail visual inspection XD

DJCarbine · 01-25-2017, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

You could keep your cats when adding a supercharger, wont even fail visual inspection XD

No visual in Chicago, and you can even have one pending code in some cases. Fairly lax, just a pain in the ass to go every 2 years to a place where the most unhappy people on the planet work.... a cook county facility

umpadupa · 01-26-2017, 12:32 AM

edelbrock? if they can pass CARB they should be ok where you are?

cdrazic93 · 01-26-2017, 03:11 AM

JRSC. @CSG Mike did a supercharger comparison, pretty sure it's stickied around here somewhere.

Edit: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55705

As far as emissions go, most if not all supercharger kits can be installed keeping the factory exhaust as well.

Edit2: helpful read http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=113899&page=2

ChiTownFrs · 01-26-2017, 09:48 AM

I live out in the NW suburbs of cook county, and I run Jackson with a Delicious tune.

This past November I had to take my car to emissions and I passed.

I will also note I run no cats on my car.

jasonojordan · 01-26-2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJCarbine

You will not fail in cook county. Ecutek or openflash? Doesn't matter, either one will allow you to pass with flying carpets

Does Aladdin come with the flying carpets?

pgranberg11 · 01-26-2017, 11:00 AM

In chicago since there is no visual, it's all about the if the systems are "ready". I remember some of the times people get CELs for using a header without a cat. I guess that's the thing of the past and the tuner can turn those off but still have the catalyst system ready. I have a kraftwerks kit with a moto-east tune full exhaust with one cat in the front pipe after the O2 sensors which doesn't really matter... haven't needed to go through emissions yet, but I know I will pass since I only have one "system" "not ready" and that's my evap system. But those never ready up stock anyways. Mine isn't ready since I'm running a flexfuel repinned harness that comes with moto-east's flex fuel kit.

So as long as you have only ONE system "not ready" you'll be fine and you'll pass. You can easily check this btw with the Torque app on Android with a bluetooth OBD. But I think you'll be fine with no issues.

EDIT: also, if you car is 2015.. I think the law is you won't have to go through emissions for 4 or 5 years? I bought my car in 2014 and I still haven't needed to go through emissions.

Lunatic · 01-26-2017, 11:37 AM

I have a friend who own's a CA emission check shop. My car has the Edelbrock supercharger, header, custom exhaust, NO CATS, and custom tune by Shawn Church, running e-85. Just for grins he plugged his instrument into my ECU and then used his probe up the tail pipe. Outside of the visual my car passed CA. emissions perfectly. I own this mostly to my tune.

CSG Mike · 01-26-2017, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Rocky

So am will soon be supercharged and one of my concerns is I live in IL and there are emission testing here. I was told if go FI I will most likely fail. My car is 2015 and kind of worried now. So don't know if should wait until after emissions and then put supercharger on or take my chance

I was going to go HKS or JRSC.

Anyone have any info for me?

The JRSC Is 50 siate legal. Please let me know when you're ready for your kit!

CSG Mike · 01-26-2017, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunatic

I have a friend who own's a CA emission check shop. My car has the Edelbrock supercharger, header, custom exhaust, NO CATS, and custom tune by Shawn Church, running e-85. Just for grins he plugged his instrument into my ECU and then used his probe up the tail pipe. Outside of the visual my car passed CA. emissions perfectly. I own this mostly to my tune.

Remember that while your friend passed you, your car is NOT California legal.

Summerwolf · 01-26-2017, 12:58 PM

All Illinois does is plug in an OBDII scanner and check for codes. As long as you don't have any and your monitored systems are online you're good. In some of my other vehicles I had the rear 02 Sensor tuned out and they all passed perfectly, not sure if you can get away with that on the twins though.

Lunatic · 01-26-2017, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Remember that while your friend passed you, your car is NOT California legal.

Yes, I know that. Car is reregistered in Ore.

01-25-2017, 10:07 PM	#1
Evil Rocky Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: FRS Location: Chiraq Posts: 299 Thanks: 74 Thanked 54 Times in 50 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Those with supercharger have issues with emissions So am will soon be supercharged and one of my concerns is I live in IL and there are emission testing here. I was told if go FI I will most likely fail. My car is 2015 and kind of worried now. So don't know if should wait until after emissions and then put supercharger on or take my chance I was going to go HKS or JRSC. Anyone have any info for me?

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DJCarbine Thupercharged Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: La Grange Park, IL. Posts: 1,501 Thanks: 116 Thanked 751 Times in 439 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You will not fail in cook county. Ecutek or openflash? Doesn't matter, either one will allow you to pass with flying carpets __________________ 2013 FRS Vortech V3 11psi Revworks UEL - PLM Overpipe - MOTIV catted frontpipe - Invidia Q300 2019 Series.Grey STI - Stage1+ SF Last edited by DJCarbine; 01-25-2017 at 11:05 PM.

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cdrazic93 Junior Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: a car Location: Probably at school Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 3,184 Thanked 2,512 Times in 1,502 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	JRSC. @CSG Mike did a supercharger comparison, pretty sure it's stickied around here somewhere. Edit: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55705 As far as emissions go, most if not all supercharger kits can be installed keeping the factory exhaust as well. Edit2: helpful read http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=113899&page=2 __________________ "Ah! What music! They could have never imagined, those pioneers who invented the automobile, that it would posses us like this, our imaginations, our dreams. Men love women, but even more than that, men love CARS!"-Lord Hesketh Last edited by cdrazic93; 01-26-2017 at 03:23 AM.

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pgranberg11 BoostedBRZ Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: Turbo BRZ Location: IL Posts: 689 Thanks: 171 Thanked 258 Times in 190 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In chicago since there is no visual, it's all about the if the systems are "ready". I remember some of the times people get CELs for using a header without a cat. I guess that's the thing of the past and the tuner can turn those off but still have the catalyst system ready. I have a kraftwerks kit with a moto-east tune full exhaust with one cat in the front pipe after the O2 sensors which doesn't really matter... haven't needed to go through emissions yet, but I know I will pass since I only have one "system" "not ready" and that's my evap system. But those never ready up stock anyways. Mine isn't ready since I'm running a flexfuel repinned harness that comes with moto-east's flex fuel kit. So as long as you have only ONE system "not ready" you'll be fine and you'll pass. You can easily check this btw with the Torque app on Android with a bluetooth OBD. But I think you'll be fine with no issues. EDIT: also, if you car is 2015.. I think the law is you won't have to go through emissions for 4 or 5 years? I bought my car in 2014 and I still haven't needed to go through emissions. __________________ Build Thread/Picture Dump Insta: pete.lete

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ChiTownFrs Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FRS Location: IL Posts: 67 Thanks: 18 Thanked 44 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I live out in the NW suburbs of cook county, and I run Jackson with a Delicious tune. This past November I had to take my car to emissions and I passed. I will also note I run no cats on my car.

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