FRS/BRZ vs 2013 Base Mustang GT

[Grateful Dave]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

Sorry i dont drive auto's i will be 80 years old banging gears now if the day comes where manuals are extinct...then a GTR type Tranny will be my only alternative...i like to drive my cars not the other way around....

You know what they say about old dogs and new tricks. You sound like a close minded crotchety old fart. Your loss.

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

You know what they say about old dogs and new tricks. You sound like a close minded crotchety old fart. Your loss.

I think you are exactly right....this acutually is 1 of the very very few things in life im close minded about maybe i need to work on that...ummm no i dont think so....lol

[Thunderchicken]

is this Apple vs PC

Apple is more expensive... blah blah
PC I can make myself and upgrade when I need too.

They are both RWD, fun to drive, and get your to and from places.

[Tbomb 25]

On the plus side Dave have fun in that beautiful beast....

[titusdrake]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

I think you are exactly right....this acutually is 1 of the very very few things in life im close minded about maybe i need to work on that...ummm no i dont think so....lol

I agree with you. I love manuals. I hope to always own a manual car

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[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

You know what they say about old dogs and new tricks. You sound like a close minded crotchety old fart. Your loss.

It's hardly a "new trick" to not have to clutch and shift manually.

The auto is slower, so the loss is for those who can't do it and/or don't care to learn...

[Grateful Dave]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

On the plus side Dave have fun in that beautiful beast....

, I had fun 3am this morning. I went for a ride on Santiago Cyn road past Cooks Corner to Trabuco Cyn past O'Neil Park. Then boogied up the hill to Rancho Santa Margarita then I turned around went back the same. What a blast in the dark. My AT FRS performed beautifully. It was a 100+ mile trip after all said and done. This was my fourth trip on Santiago Cyn. 2 at night 2 during the day. I did Ortega Hwy on Monday. When I bought my FRS, from Longo Scion I did Azuza Cyn to Chrystal Lake then to Mt. Baldy via Glendora Mtn road. On Father's day, after Dad's, I went home on Topanga Cyn Road to PCH then the freeways home back to the OC. I have over 1300 mile on my car in only 3 weeks. Say what you will, at least I'm driving my FR-S on fun mountain roads.

[Grateful Dave]

Originally Posted by ZDan

It's hardly a "new trick" to not have to clutch and shift manually.

The auto is slower, so the loss is for those who can't do it and/or don't care to learn...

I've driven a manual for 30 years. Until you drive the FRS AT, you don't know how good it works.

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

, I had fun 3am this morning. I went for a ride on Santiago Cyn road past Cooks Corner to Trabuco Cyn past O'Neil Park. Then boogied up the hill to Rancho Santa Margarita then I turned around went back the same. What a blast in the dark. My AT FRS performed beautifully. It was a 100+ mile trip after all said and done. This was my fourth trip on Santiago Cyn. 2 at night 2 during the day. I did Ortega Hwy on Monday. When I bought my FRS, from Longo Scion I did Azuza Cyn to Chrystal Lake then to Mt. Baldy via Glendora Mtn road. On Father's day, after Dad's, I went home on Topanga Cyn Road to PCH then the freeways home back to the OC. I have over 1300 mile on my car in only 3 weeks. Say what you will, at least I'm driving my FR-S on fun mountain roads.

3 am drives are the ultimate sign of enjoying a car. My Miata i used to make up reasons to go to the store several times in a day, my wife would be like "I thought you just went and got salt i would say it wasnt Mortons" LMAO

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by ZDan

It's hardly a "new trick" to not have to clutch and shift manually.

The auto is slower, so the loss is for those who can't do it and/or don't care to learn...

I understand Daves reason he has some injuries to his legs....

[Tbomb 25]

Makes me wanna go out and buy a spare Mazda 2 as my daily....it is trully a FWD eqiviulent of the Miata 1.6 B6...

[titusdrake]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

3 am drives are the ultimate sign of enjoying a car. My Miata i used to make up reasons to go to the store several times in a day, my wife would be like "I thought you just went and got salt i would say it wasnt Mortons" LMAO

LOL indeed. I drove around Newport at 2 am whilst on vacation once. Was the best two hours of my life

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[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by titusdrake

LOL indeed. I drove around Newport at 2 am whilst on vacation once. Was the best two hours of my life

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I bet that was a blast....makes me think about those NEEDFORSPEED games graphics at night...lol

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

I've driven a manual for 30 years. Until you drive the FRS AT, you don't know how good it works.

I drove it. It was somewhat better than manually shifting my old 318 Plymouth Duster's 3-speed auto, but not as immediate as I hoped. Even if the auto doesn't have an acceleration penalty (haven't seen them compared head-to-head), I don't like the disconnected feeling when driving normally. The lag between tapping on the paddle and getting an upshift feels like your a step or two further removed. Sales lady was with me, so I didn't give it any full-throttle upshifts at high rpm, hopefully they are more immediate. Definitely prefer the manual, even if they had the same ratios. Add the fact that the auto has much wider-spaced ratios and I'm all the more for the manual. I'm not against all "flappy paddle" gearboxes, but this one isn't for me.

That said, if these cars only came with the autobox, I'd still be interested in getting one. MUCH more so than any other new car on the market.