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Old 08-09-2014, 07:48 AM   #29
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I think most of the people are for the looks first. Subaru wanted to propose an alternative point of view with the RA edition in Japan. This is a stripped down edition with much less weight. They even installed a smaller battery to gain some more weight. The overall weight of this car is 1190 kg.

So, it looks strange why to put steelies. If they wanted a not very expensive light-weight wheel solution, they could put the manufactured by Enkei 16" wheels that come as standard in the R version. The same holds also for the RA Racing edition which is even more expensive from the R version.
LOL....you're so wrong buddy. Nothing against your preference for using steelies on your car, but you should at least know the reason why the RA and the RC versions come equipped with steel wheels. The only reason is so that the car can roll off the production line and generally be moved about until it gets to the customer. That's all. Not for looks and definitely not to 'propose an alternative point of view' to these cars. Not to save weight either. They use them because it's cheap and the customers who buy these versions will junk them and replace with their own choice of wheels and tires for competition use.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:03 PM   #30
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Of course they junk them out in the competitions and replace them with different wheel brands. It is a way to make advertisements and to be alive as a race team. And of course it is also for the looks.

From my point of view, the RA and RC versions are the actual GT86/BRZ versions. They advocate a light-weight, good handling car platform for enthusiastic drivers. All the others versions are just premium fatty editions equipped with sat-nav, dual climate, start-stop engine functionality, big wheels-tires and all the other fuzzy things that customers just want to have.
Sigh....you still don't get it.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:12 PM   #33
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I wasn't disputing the pros and cons between steel and alloy wheels. I was trying to explain to you why the RA and RC came equipped with steelies from the factory. But nevermind.
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As I said before, if you put a 10kg tire with a 5kg light-weight wheel then you have an unbalanced combination. In this case most of the weight is far from the center. You might have some gain, but not so much.
Sorry but you are wrong here. There is no such thing as balance between tire and rim. Lighter rim better, smaller rim better, lighter tire even better. But there is no gain in a heavier rim for the sake of "balance"!!
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... good handling to me is not necessarily the same as superstiff chassis set-up, as some controlled flex actually helps on a bumpy back road, just as suspension travel is not an evil invention necessarily :p
I like the way you think, 37:an. I love roads where suspension travel and tyre compression becomes important factors.



I don't like the look of steel wheels much, though. Sorry :-)
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I don't like the look of steel wheels much, though. Sorry :-)
Not a big fan of the black ones either, with this thread I was hoping to see some silver ones that actually have some design in them. These can look very nice IMO on some cars.
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With the same reasoning, companies could say "put the crappiest suspension because serious racing customers will after all change it with after-market coilovers". Sorry, I cannot accept this. A car company can never ship a product with such a reasoning. The majority of customers will never modify their cars.
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i post here, not to reopen hostilities, but i need a set of winter tires for the mountains around here (french alps) for 1 to 2 months for the really low temperature period. I would like to go the 205/55 route to get more traction
Can anybody tell me if 16" forester S rims will fit the gt86?
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If they are close to same size as WRX wheels. Then yes
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