Video: Toyota FT-86 II Concept Design Explained by "Dezi" Nagaya (Design Manager)

[WingsofWar]

Id expect Toyota to keep the similar body lines, so what you see in both the FT86 and FT86II in terms of body structure of pillar placement you will see in the production model.

The aero package that the production model will come with is the issue that looms over all consumers interested in the car. Is it worth the extra $$$ to have various vents and flaps regardless if they are functional or not? Its subjective.

In my opinion, and judging by how Toyota is handling business today. They will give us a more subtle production model 86, more similar to the II but less aggressive in engineered aero.

[EJ20]

Originally Posted by C-Bone

I find it funny how many people dislike concept II. I liked the first one alot no doubt and still do but I also really like 2, it looks so agressive and intimidating and I kinda like the LED's though if they weren't there I wouldn't cry about it.

I like it but those LEDs and rear spoiler should be removed, also rear bumper need to be fixed

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

The aero package that the production model will come with is the issue that looms over all consumers interested in the car. Is it worth the extra $$$ to have various vents and flaps regardless if they are functional or not? Its subjective.

It depends on the level of function you are referring to.

If the vent has air flow, I consider that functional. Even if the vent doesn't serve any significant purpose such as cooling or air intake, as long as the air flows (and doesn't slow the car). This is important as the Mustang in contrast has fake hood scoops that just have plastic filling. This bothers the crap out of me.

The Celica, in contrast, has a hood scoop that directs air to the exhaust manifold and cools the firewall. It's not super-functional, but it has air flow and it works.

However the Tsunami Edition Celica's took on the Mustang-way with fake plastic vents that provided no air flow at all. These were on the front bumper, sideskirts, and rear valence. Again, this annoys me as it's just solid plastic meant to imitate a vent.

[Garage1217]

Guys, I know we all hate the spoiler and leds, however spoilers are normally factory options, not usually standard. For the leds, take them in to a paint shop and have them smoked over and the led look is gone.

[C-Bone]

Originally Posted by xantonin

Mustang in contrast has fake hood scoops that just have plastic filling. This bothers the crap out of me.

Agreed

Originally Posted by Garage1217

Guys, I know we all hate the spoiler and leds, however spoilers are normally factory options, not usually standard. For the leds, take them in to a paint shop and have them smoked over and the led look is gone.

Thats a good idea. Smoke film (or tint you put on windows) would work too so if you want it removed it doesn't destroy your bumper, thats how I prefer to do tail lights and stuff if its pratical. If the light has tons of curves and stuff its easier to nightshade

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by Garage1217

Guys, I know we all hate the spoiler and leds, however spoilers are normally factory options, not usually standard. For the leds, take them in to a paint shop and have them smoked over and the led look is gone.

While I agree on the spoiler thing, I think the idea with the car is to have it require as little modification out of the factory as possible.

As you mentioned, options are nice. I'd love to see the LED strip as on option.

[bls]

when will we have a us production??? thanks

[whaap]

Originally Posted by ryun84

^ ROFL!

What part of "concept" do people have a hard time understanding? Especially if Toyota sticks to their plans of this being an affordable car, there is no way that many of the "glitz" features of the concept II will remain in the production model. I understand the need to vent frustration with certain details (or lack thereof) at times, but why not be a little patient before axing a model that isn't even out yet?

I guess you skipped where I typed the word if.

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by cyde01

i wonder how jaromir czech feels about this whole thing.

They didn't show the interior

[FT-86GOD]

Originally Posted by xantonin

It depends on the level of function you are referring to.

If the vent has air flow, I consider that functional. Even if the vent doesn't serve any significant purpose such as cooling or air intake, as long as the air flows (and doesn't slow the car). This is important as the Mustang in contrast has fake hood scoops that just have plastic filling. This bothers the crap out of me.

The Celica, in contrast, has a hood scoop that directs air to the exhaust manifold and cools the firewall. It's not super-functional, but it has air flow and it works.

However the Tsunami Edition Celica's took on the Mustang-way with fake plastic vents that provided no air flow at all. These were on the front bumper, sideskirts, and rear valence. Again, this annoys me as it's just solid plastic meant to imitate a vent.

VERY TRUE.. FAKE VENTS = TURDS & Usually higher engine bay temps due to thicker bonnets(plastic, fiberglass etc)
Our own Australian VE commodore has a fake reverse scoop as an $1800 additional option.. Made of fibre glass and totally for looks...


However, if its possible to machine the bonnet to allow the vents to be useful im totally keen for that.. With the VE u can but alot of strengthing needs to be done to avoid bonnet flex and worst case scenario coming off at high speed.....

I almost got one for my ute but to chunky, to expensive, non functional, and a bit of work to make work.. LOL

[NESW20]

anyone else notice the mesh between the LEDs and headlights... brake cooling ducts???

EDIT: at 31-32 seconds in the video.

[[es vi: eks]]

Looking at that video, the FT-86 II is starting to grow on me.
I like the idea of tinting the leds since they stick out like a sore thumb.

[Jordo!]

Originally Posted by xantonin

I like that guy, he's cool.

I want to hear his explanation for the front LED strips though...

That must be the "J-factor"

Cool vid, but all we learned is that, in theory, all the spoilers are functional rather than just for show.

I'll buy that for now

[ft86cbx]

Originally Posted by Jordo!

Cool vid, but all we learned is that, in theory, all the spoilers are functional rather than just for show.

I'll buy that for now

I would expect most of the vents/spoilers to be functional rather than for show as they said the "aerodynamics developed from F1 technology".