Turbo Build - Goal 300whp at best bang for buck

[SON1C]

To lay the groundwork, I have a series blue brz with basically just a cat back and a couple other minor mods as I've been contemplating the direction I want to take my car over the last several months.

I've decided I want to jump right into the power and build it to a goal that's reminiscent of my old mustang gt and 03 cobra. That's why I've chosen the 300whp as my initial goal. Later on down the road I'll either build the motor or swap the motor and strive for higher numbers but I'll be perfectly content with 300 to the wheels for quite a while.

I want to do everything right, the first time, and have it be as reliable as possible. This is my daily driver and now only vehicle. I'm looking to get a good value for my money but don't mind spending more if it's worth it for x or y reason.

I'm open to all turbo kit suggestions or other advise, 93 octane, I'm not really interested in e85 as it'll be a big hassle at my location. I came into this thinking I can be essentially done for $6000

My goals with the car it's a daily driver street car, some car shows, and a few auto x events for fun.

























I've attached some screen shots of the several options I've looked at and are considering so far - the fbm turbo kit - jdl turbo kit - Greddy turbo kit - sbd turbo kit - and ptuning turbo kit

[Carlysh]

Dude not to hurt and feel bad but they is a thread in the sticky with all budget turbo kit and i lost count how many thread are
with the same question
my advise more research in the FI section they have all turbo kits

[spitfire481]

come out to the open house at pure automotive tomorrow and check out some cars. there should be people with just about all of those kits there you can talk to and get real time info from.

[cdrazic93]

Done^ real experience is magnitudes (on the order of billions) times better than a forum response.

[Yoda]

10k for the ptuning puts it out of range but it's a solid kit for sure.

[bfrank1972]

Yah Ptuning is probably the best overall engineered solution. If you're looking for bang for the buck and decent engineering then the SBD kit is hard to beat, probably what I'll end up going for eventually. But as other said, talk to owners to get a real idea. Also keep in mind you'll probably want to budget for a custom tune, oil cooler, AEM failsafe, and maybe a clutch.

[King Tut]

All of those turbo kits will get the job done. So if best bang for the buck is your concern, then go with the cheapest. I lump those kits into 3 categories:

Small turbo kits:

SBD (Greddy clone)
Greddy

Forward Mount Garrett/Precision Turbo Kits:

JDL
Full Blown
MAP

Low Side Mount Garrett Turbo Kit:

PTUNING

I would lean toward the Full Blown or the PTUNING kit depending on your plans for the car, but they are definitely not the best bang for the buck. If you want higher numbers and plan a built motor down the road then the Full Blown or the PTUNING kit with a GTX30 turbo might become more of a better value.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Yoda

10k for the ptuning puts it out of range but it's a solid kit for sure.

You took the high installed price quote. The kit isn't 10k. The price is on order of the other high end kits when you factor in the oil return pump setup.

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Done^ real experience is magnitudes (on the order of billions) times better than a forum response.

Originally Posted by spitfire481

come out to the open house at pure automotive tomorrow and check out some cars. there should be people with just about all of those kits there you can talk to and get real time info from.

Appreciate the heads up guys! I really wanted to make it out there tomorrow but I'm unfortunately working open to close 7-7 basically -- I tell myself it'll help me purchase the kit at least.. Lol

Hoping to make it out to the next one held.

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by Carlysh

Dude not to hurt and feel bad but they is a thread in the sticky with all budget turbo kit and i lost count how many thread are
with the same question
my advise more research in the FI section they have all turbo kits

Appreciate it

Originally Posted by Yoda

10k for the ptuning puts it out of range but it's a solid kit for sure.

Originally Posted by King Tut

You took the high installed price quote. The kit isn't 10k. The price is on order of the other high end kits when you factor in the oil return pump setup.

Yeah I don't want that to seem misleading their kit is basically 7k

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by King Tut

All of those turbo kits will get the job done. So if best bang for the buck is your concern, then go with the cheapest. I lump those kits into 3 categories:

Small turbo kits:

SBD (Greddy clone)
Greddy

Forward Mount Garrett/Precision Turbo Kits:

JDL
Full Blown
MAP

Low Side Mount Garrett Turbo Kit:

PTUNING

I would lean toward the Full Blown or the PTUNING kit depending on your plans for the car, but they are definitely not the best bang for the buck. If you want higher numbers and plan a built motor down the road then the Full Blown or the PTUNING kit with a GTX30 turbo might become more of a better value.

Are there other kits I didn't post you would recommend as well?

I'm looking for a 300whp setup that is absolutely reliable -- I know I'll end up going for more power down the road but it may be 2 years to where getting ready for that now could be a waste. 300 to the wheels on pump gas will certainly make me happy for awhile and then I can keep it from becoming a money pit... Or trying! Lol

Late game plan is either a built motor or engine swap, but as stated not for years.

If you were me, with the rough idea of what I want, what route would you take?

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Yah Ptuning is probably the best overall engineered solution. If you're looking for bang for the buck and decent engineering then the SBD kit is hard to beat, probably what I'll end up going for eventually. But as other said, talk to owners to get a real idea. Also keep in mind you'll probably want to budget for a custom tune, oil cooler, AEM failsafe, and maybe a clutch.

I only have 5000 miles on my car so far so I'll use the stock clutch as long as it will last, will figure out which one to have on hand when that day comes. Does the fail safe deliver or is it better to just use a normal afr gauge. What is the best oil cooling setup for my needs?

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by SON1C

I only have 5000 miles on my car so far so I'll use the stock clutch as long as it will last, will figure out which one to have on hand when that day comes. Does the fail safe deliver or is it better to just use a normal afr gauge. What is the best oil cooling setup for my needs?

The AEM failsafe works well for overboost protection (boost creep, watergate issue, etc). It can signal an electronic boost controller (also I think you can wire it up somehow with the stock ECU, ecutek, and a solenoid) to cut boost if it exceeds a certain threshold, or if the wideband O2 sensor detects a lean condition. Can really save your hide if set up right.

Search around for oil coolers people are using with the turbo kit you like, that way you know there won't be any fitment issues.


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[GsxrMe]

Originally Posted by SON1C

I only have 5000 miles on my car so far so I'll use the stock clutch as long as it will last, will figure out which one to have on hand when that day comes. Does the fail safe deliver or is it better to just use a normal afr gauge. What is the best oil cooling setup for my needs?

I went with the most reliable way but it still ended up costing me closer to $8500 for upgrades on kit, Clutch and a fullblown 3" exhaust. If I would of had labor, I know it would of been over 10k.

Don't take shortcuts. You'll end up costing yourself an engine. If your budget doesn't seem to fit it at the moment then keep saving. It's worth it, I promise!

If you go supercharged you'll make less hp using a base kit without supporting mods. but, you won't need clutch right away and you'll spend way less. I personally have always had Garrett turbos on my bikes and cars so you won't get any super charger support from me.

Some turbos are oil and water cooled and some aren't. Some turbos have ball bearings and some don't.

Study your ass off.