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I'm pretty sure that is not the case, but it could be the case. Anything is possible. It is entirely possible Idaho is harboring some of the best intellectual minds in medicine, and perhaps they have the most advanced facilities in the nation. Anything is possible. Maybe there is something in the potatoes.

California does have 5 hospitals in the top 20. Just saying.

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I would definitely take a day or two. The first dose is nothing, and for some, the second might not be too bad, and honestly, this could have been something else, but I am pretty sure it was a strong side effect.

My temp now is 98.3, and I mostly just feel like hammered shit like hungover/dehydrated and still weak and sore, but improving rapidly. Definitely worth it.
But still no superpowers. Fuck that bullshit. India's working on one. Imma hold out and check with my Hyderabad bro's.
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Just got off the phone with the parents. Sounds like my grandfather should be scheduled to get his first dose on Friday.

Sadly, there still exists no vaccine or cure for dementia.
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Just got off the phone with the parents. Sounds like my grandfather should be scheduled to get his first dose on Friday.

Sadly, there still exists no vaccine or cure for dementia.
Mine got his first dose last week I think.
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But still no superpowers. Fuck that bullshit. India's working on one. Imma hold out and check with my Hyderabad bro's.
He will have to discover the powers at some personal low point in a few weeks time. You need to give it time so it comes as a surprise and then changes his life forever. Everybody knows that!
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Oh, shit. Gotcha. Keep hope alive.
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4,259 deaths today. Ugh. New high.

Still feeling crummy. Hopefully this isn’t an experience that needs repeating each year or worse. It would probably be less severe. I might get a COVID test too just to make sure this is the vaccine.
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I would definitely take a day or two. The first dose is nothing, and for some, the second might not be too bad, and honestly, this could have been something else, but I am pretty sure it was a strong side effect.

My temp now is 98.3, and I mostly just feel like hammered shit like hungover/dehydrated and still weak and sore, but improving rapidly. Definitely worth it.
Glad you are feeling better.

Back in the day, with those after effects, the old folks would say "that just shows its working".

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Still feeling crummy. Hopefully this isnít an experience that needs repeating each year or worse. It would probably be less severe. I might get a COVID test too just to make sure this is the vaccine.
Got mine about 90 minutes ago, as did my son. So far, so good but I know that's wishful thinking at this point.

My in-laws are getting their first dose this afternoon.

My daughter-in-law is having reactions similar to your second dose on her first. The NP is telling her that is pretty normal if you had COVID, which she did about 4 months ago.
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WTF, funwheeldrive, you and I must be looking at two different data sets -
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What do you do in healthcare? Do you work in Thurston County Washington? That is a fairly rural area. Are you following what is happening around the rest of the world and US? I understand the media likes to hype up anything they are covering, but you should have the skillset to determine how bad things are. You don't think that a virus that has killed 10x the number of people as the seasonal flu, even though we have been on lockdowns and are wearing masks, is that bad? Why is that? Because it mostly affects those 65 and older, so it is no big deal? Because it hasn't overwhelmed every hospital? What metric do you use to determine whether this is bad enough?

I don't have to assume anything. I asked them. I talked to dozens and dozens of my coworkers. I've read the articles where they interviewed people who say why they are not getting the vaccine. Although I can't say why everyone is not getting the vaccine, I gave a list of the 5 common reasons that I have heard and read. Outside of people joking about growing a third arm, developing super powers, having tracking devices injected in their body, etc. the reasons I listed are the only reasons.

If people didn't have fear then they would just get the vaccine. Like wearing a mask, it is how we will get the economy open again, but that point seems to evade people just like wearing a mask. Getting vaccinated is the fastest way we can fully reopen society with no masks or restrictions--outside of allowing this virus to infect everyone until we get to herd immunity and killing millions, which is not an option. Society will remain in lockdowns and stores will have restrictions until we drop the death rate and infection rate to endemic levels.

I really don't understand as healthcare workers why people would want to take a chance of potentially getting the virus and possibly giving the virus to their patients who could die. We have had several outbreaks in our hospital requiring extensive contact tracing and have had several nosocomial infections. In both cases it was determined that what most likely occurred was a false negative PCR test and a healthcare worker was exposed and then exposed multiple patients. Several patients who had been discharged ended up returning days later with fever and respiratory complications requiring admission.
My comment was in regards to people not fearing Covid19, not just the vaccine. Again, I'm not saying that people over the age of 65 don't matter as much as younger people, but to force healthy, asymptomatic people from operating their small business or attending a wedding or going to church is terribly wrong, even under the false guise of "safety". The bulk of these lockdowns and mandates are nonsensical and not founded on solid data, yet they are pushed by politicians attempting to give the illusion that they have everything under control and are there to keep the general public safe. You say that mask mandates will allow us to open up the economy again yet California "had" to lockdown and implement curfews for the majority of the state months after they implemented their mandate.

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On a separate note: my wife's coworker has a grandmother who is 81 who is dying of COVID. She has been in the hospital for several days, but is not improving despite prophylactic IV antibiotics, fluids and other therapies. She is on 10-12 lpm of oxygen on a non-rebreather, but her o2 sat is just getting worse. They want to intubate her, but she is refusing. The family is going to try to go to Southern California and visit her to convince her to keep fighting, but they won't be able to visit because she is in isolation. Frankly, she is probably not going to make it, even if they tubed her.
I'm surprised they are using a rebreather as opposed to a high flow nasal cannula? She will have lived years longer than the average US female. It's sad, but everyone dies. I can only hope to live to be +80 years old.

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This means 1 out of 54 adults over 75 has died of COVID in New York City, and 1 out of 142 adults 65-74 has died of COVID. It got me curious to compare to the rest of the US. About 1 out of 160 adults over 65 has died.
It probably didn't help that the governor of new york forced nursing homes to take thousands of known covid positive patients. That's probably the worst thing he could have done and likely resulted in tens of thousands of deaths.

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Me deciding to not get a vaccine doesn't mean I'm responsible for someone dying. Also, hospitals do screen all their employees, but performing tests on everyone on a regular basis when they have no symptoms or don't meet testing criteria is contraindicated and wasteful.

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4,259 deaths today. Ugh. New high.
Better lock the whole country down immediately!! (except cannabis stores, Hollywood movie sets, fast food joints, and other essential businesses of course)
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I got an email from my health insurance with the state's vaccine rollout plan. Looks like the vaccine will be available to the general public here starting May.

My son in the Navy had covid in November and finally tested negative in December. He just had the first dose and is sick again and now tests positive again.
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Maybe you just don't know how to interpret the data correctly?

My comment was in regards to people not fearing Covid19, not just the vaccine. Again, I'm not saying that people over the age of 65 don't matter as much as younger people, but to force healthy, asymptomatic people from operating their small business or attending a wedding or going to church is terribly wrong, even under the false guise of "safety". The bulk of these lockdowns and mandates are nonsensical and not founded on solid data, yet they are pushed by politicians attempting to give the illusion that they have everything under control and are there to keep the general public safe. You say that mask mandates will allow us to open up the economy again yet California "had" to lockdown and implement curfews for the majority of the state months after they implemented their mandate.



I'm surprised they are using a rebreather as opposed to a high flow nasal cannula? She will have lived years longer than the average US female. It's sad, but everyone dies. I can only hope to live to be +80 years old.



It probably didn't help that the governor of new york forced nursing homes to take thousands of known covid positive patients. That's probably the worst thing he could have done and likely resulted in tens of thousands of deaths.



Me deciding to not get a vaccine doesn't mean I'm responsible for someone dying. Also, hospitals do screen all their employees, but performing tests on everyone on a regular basis when they have no symptoms or don't meet testing criteria is contraindicated and wasteful.



No thanks, I'll just wear a mask instead.



Better lock the whole country down immediately!! (except cannabis stores, Hollywood movie sets, fast food joints, and other essential businesses of course)

I know several people who are regular church attendees and they're doing just fine with video services and Zoom meetings for their smaller group studies. It's not ideal for them because obviously a majority of people prefer in-person meetings, but they're doing it and surviving. I'm fairly sure there's even a scripture in the Bible about how the church isn't the building but the people, and that wherever the people are is where the church is.

So to keep saying people are forced to not have church or that not being able to attend in person is a super horrible thing is super disingenuous.

If I had memorized my arguments back in uni I'd probably be able to point this argument out as a straw man or something, since you and many other people are making a much larger, debilitating issue out of church than it needs to be right now.
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I got an email from my health insurance with the state's vaccine rollout plan. Looks like the vaccine will be available to the general public here starting May.

My son in the Navy had covid in November and finally tested negative in December. He just had the first dose and is sick again and now tests positive again.
Oh, I hope he recovers.
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I know several people who are regular church attendees and they're doing just fine with video services and Zoom meetings for their smaller group studies. It's not ideal for them because obviously a majority of people prefer in-person meetings, but they're doing it and surviving. I'm fairly sure there's even a scripture in the Bible about how the church isn't the building but the people, and that wherever the people are is where the church is.

So to keep saying people are forced to not have church or that not being able to attend in person is a super horrible thing is super disingenuous.
That's great that they are able to make it work, but the government should not be allowed to deny those who want to meet in person, that's all I'm saying. That's probably why the Supreme Court determined that states cannot implement stricter regulations on religious institutions and I'm glad they came to that conclusion.

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If I had memorized my arguments back in uni I'd probably be able to point this argument out as a straw man or something, since you and many other people are making a much larger, debilitating issue out of church than it needs to be right now.
My claims apply to much more than just church, I'm talking about private family gatherings, in person schools, outdoor/indoor dining, etc. People will look back at this time period and be ashamed of how much they were willing to sacrifice for a false sense of safety. That's just my personal opinion.

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