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Old 07-28-2021, 05:32 PM   #99
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So, package 2 is: all weather floor liners, cargo tray, led dome light, footwell illumination, rear bumper applique and auto dimming mirror with homelink.

I was at the dealer today and had him bring the list back up, and most everything in the packages was able to be selected individually, and they failed to let me see it the first time.

The rear diffuser will be available here.
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Correct, Tada-san wasn't involved & none of 1st gen engineers are involved in new 86/BRZ (they're retired, quit/fired, or moved to different projects). Technically, new gen spearhead is Subaru team. Of course Toyota/GR engineers are there, but a lot of things are decided by Subaru.

I’m okay with that, I think Subaru had the better setup on the 1st Gen car as well.
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Old 07-28-2021, 06:27 PM   #101
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$27,995 for base 6mt, base auto with Eyesight is $29,995.

Limited 6mt is $30,495, auto is $32,295.

Limited adds upgraded audio, 18" wheels with Pilot Sport 4 tires, Ultrasuede seats, heated seats and side mirrors, steering responsive headlights, blind spot detection, and available Starlink telematics.

8" headunit and dual zone climate control are standard!

Orders open today!
The "At a glance" PDF linked somewhere else doesn't mention upgraded audio?
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The "At a glance" PDF linked somewhere else doesn't mention upgraded audio?
Hmm, yeah it's not in the press release but it's definitely mentioned in the pricing announcement sent to dealers. Just double checked there. Fingers crossed!
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Old 07-28-2021, 06:38 PM   #103
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Hmm, yeah it's not in the press release but it's definitely mentioned in the pricing announcement sent to dealers. Just double checked there. Fingers crossed!
I hope so. That was one of the complaints about my '15 BRZ Limited was the terrible stereo.
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Also, full list of accessories both port and dealer installed is now available to Subaru retailers along with MSRP. So they should be able to help you out with an order.
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Not that it matters to me (I prefer MT), but I see they went to a 3.9 final drive for the auto now. The gear ratios match the previous auto, which were already longer than the manual, and now the final drive is longer too. Easily explains why auto still falls behind the manual a decent bit on top of the added weight. But also pretty impressive. I recall several folks complaining about the auto being slow for modern times, but this should explain why.

Many auto Gen1 owners that wanted improved acceleration bumped up to a 4.3, 4.56, or even higher for quite a noticeable acceleration improvement. This will be even more noticeable now coming from a 3.9 and having a greatly improved torque curve. Shouldn't be much to complain about for the auto-choosers this time around. Or for those that keep it stock, it will probably get somewhat similar MPG's to current gen, which is also nice.
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Not that it matters to me (I prefer MT), but I see they went to a 3.9 final drive for the auto now. The gear ratios match the previous auto, which were already longer than the manual, and now the final drive is longer too. Easily explains why auto still falls behind the manual a decent bit on top of the added weight. But also pretty impressive. I recall several folks complaining about the auto being slow for modern times, but this should explain why.

Many auto Gen1 owners that wanted improved acceleration bumped up to a 4.3, 4.56, or even higher for quite a noticeable acceleration improvement. This will be even more noticeable now coming from a 3.9 and having a greatly improved torque curve. Shouldn't be much to complain about for the auto-choosers this time around. Or for those that keep it stock, it will probably get somewhat similar MPG's to current gen, which is also nice.
The long gears are also good for those who decide to go turbo.
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Not that it matters to me (I prefer MT), but I see they went to a 3.9 final drive for the auto now. The gear ratios match the previous auto, which were already longer than the manual, and now the final drive is longer too. Easily explains why auto still falls behind the manual a decent bit on top of the added weight. But also pretty impressive. I recall several folks complaining about the auto being slow for modern times, but this should explain why.

Many auto Gen1 owners that wanted improved acceleration bumped up to a 4.3, 4.56, or even higher for quite a noticeable acceleration improvement. This will be even more noticeable now coming from a 3.9 and having a greatly improved torque curve. Shouldn't be much to complain about for the auto-choosers this time around. Or for those that keep it stock, it will probably get somewhat similar MPG's to current gen, which is also nice.

These are the real sacrifices made to keep NA. You need long gearing to get the desired fuel economy vs a smaller turbo motor. Auto customers are more likely to care about MPGs so the autos get the long gears.

That said, I wouldn’t trade an NA 2.4 for let’s say a boosted 1.6. In this kind of car the throttle response is just so worth it.
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Old 07-30-2021, 08:19 PM   #108
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So, package 2 is: all weather floor liners, cargo tray, led dome light, footwell illumination, rear bumper applique and auto dimming mirror with homelink.

I was at the dealer today and had him bring the list back up, and most everything in the packages was able to be selected individually, and they failed to let me see it the first time.

The rear diffuser will be available here.
Sounds like I should stop in at the dealership in person instead of going back and forth via email.
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Old 08-02-2021, 12:45 AM   #109
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Personally, I don't care that much who is behind the new car. If it carries most of Tada-san's spirit and improves in areas without going too expensive, then this is what it matters.
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where do you guys get the info that limited gets better audio? at a glance doc lists all perks of limited over poremium, and sound is not one of them. I heard that's the case for toyota counterpart though
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i've been talking to a dealership and they have indicated that the brz limited does come with upgraded audio but what exactly that entails is unclear
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i've been talking to a dealership and they have indicated that the brz limited does come with upgraded audio but what exactly that entails is unclear

Most probable scenario is that the premium/ limited share the same breakdown as the Toyota base/premium.

So my guess: premium 6 speakers, limited 8 speakers.
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