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01-18-2014, 05:57 PM | #1 | |
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How Does the Alfa 4C Stack Up Against the Toyota GT 86 / Scion FR-S & Porsche Cayman?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI-WkHBUFN4"]Alfa Romeo 4C vs Porsche Cayman vs Toyota GT86 / Scion FT86 - sportscar shootout - YouTube[/ame] Quote:
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01-18-2014, 07:25 PM | #2 |
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it seemed like all they wanted to do was drift so im not too surprised they didnt like the short wheelbase, rear weight bias, or turbo. i cant see liking the alfa if that is the case. it was refreshing to see a comparison not talk about objective performance at all though.
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01-18-2014, 07:33 PM | #3 |
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Saw this yesterday, despite all that. I think we will still see most ppl pick the alfa if money isn't a issue.
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spend 10 grand extra on the FRS and you have 1. the most fun. 2. the best performance. 3. 10 grand to spare.
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01-19-2014, 01:29 PM | #9 |
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Not new you can't. (His original point was comparing new v. new). But I agree with your general premise that modified vs. stock is pointless.
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you can definitely buy a stock car for cheaper than the frs that will be faster but with the miata, you also get to check the more reliable and more fun boxes and still have some change. i think the fundamental issue is that people most likely are naturally logarithmic in nature but are forced to think with linear values. in my head, thats explains our inherent misunderstanding of diminishing returns. |
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Depemding on the market you're in, a brand new Miata doesn't cost necessarily cost that much less than the Twins do.
IIRC the NC miata seems to top out at around 250whp at the crank with basic aftermarket bolt on forced induction kits, whereas similar kits on the Twins can get 250 at the wheels. Since the Alfa's turbocharged from the factory it should probably be easy to get an extra horsepower out of it with a simple chip tune. That Cayman S - far and away the best car in the test but just too rich for my blood. I have 10k in my 86 and it's fantastic, but it's still no Cayman S. Still doesn't cost anywhere near as much as a Cayman S does though.
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The alfa is hot sex. I'd love to have one. That said, the porker is the superior car. I'd buy a vette c7 before either.
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I'm honestly waiting for ANY video with good tires on the 86! Why do they always track it on crappy eco tires and then compare it to cars that come factory with better rubber?
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A new stock Club PRHT costs $29.5K. I don't know the hell you $27K w/ a blower, suspension, intake, exhaust. roll bar and clutch. You tack welding coat hangers in your garage?
Quicker, but not faster. A miata will never have the high speed stability and aero efficiency of the FRS let alone the corner exit speed. If you want fun and nimble, get a Lotus or MR2. Miata is just a poser car by comparison. Once you go lightweight MR, all things Miata are just a joke. |
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