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11-27-2016, 10:08 PM | #1 |
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Someone tested the Performance Package... small but SOME info at least
Dorian Mansella @DorianMansella [ame="https://twitter.com/DorianMansella/status/802006992441188356"]Nov 24[/ame] Queens, NY @themaxprince you recently reviewed the 2017 BRZ with the new performance package. Can you compare the ride qualities of perf.pack vs orig?
0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes Max Prince @themaxprince @DorianMansella Hey! Thanks for reading. No street drive, just Fuji. But ride feels similar to early FRS & brakes are lovely. Recommended. __________________ http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...d-first-drive/ This article is the only article i have found that has a person who reviewed the 2017 BRZ with performance package. He seemed to have a technical brain and into mechanics, so i was inspired to ask him his opinion on ride comfort. The first is my question tweet and the 2nd is his reply. I made an account just to message him, only way I could figure out how to contact him. at least it is something. Similar is similar. |
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Well I have been wondering about this as well. I have not been worried about the comfort level, but i was curious if the sachs added a little extra joy in the corners.
But at least we know he liked the brakes. Good on ya, for at least actively trying to find an answer.
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11-28-2016, 12:25 PM | #3 |
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A few comments from someone who tested the Sachs performance dampers.
"The new tune has better bump absorption, and quickly settles down after rolling over the lip of some of the curbs; the BRZ's Sachs dampers make it stiffer, but not exotic-car stiff." http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-review/page-2 I know, that doesn't help much. |
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thanks for asking him, I have been wondering about it but have not found very much information.
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Hmm... more reactive and stiffer could be sucky on potholes.
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Good mentions about the Sachs ZFs, but I'm honestly more interested to hear about how good those Brembos are. I'm still leaning on the thought that it's just a gimmick they added to the PP to add perceived value. I mean it's not uncommon to throw on something inadequate with a brand name on it to increase sales.
I know I want the PP because of the Sachs ZFs, and the fact that it's a psuedo prepped car off the lot. ~$1.2 and you won't have to worry about suspension and brakes until you feel that you've maximized the car as it is or are ready to change out some components. Which is a pretty good value in my opinion since coils and brake kits run about $2k+ each. JRitt's post on another thread pretty much lays out points to think about when comparing the value of the PP Brembos vs the AP racing kit. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=18 Quote:
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11-29-2016, 03:39 PM | #9 |
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Keep in mind the above is from someone trying to sell you something and this information is all very biased towards the kit they sell. The BBK in the PP should be more than enough for lapping days and the essex kit will cost at least twice as much than for PP for just a front system, vs front AND rear and wider wheels and better dampers of the PP. Sorry but you just can't argue with the value proposition of the PP.
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$1100 + warranty and testing vs. $4600 for probably better setup but its thousands more so it should be. 1100 bux one cant go wrong unless you live in a flat place, never brake a lot, and dont like the color black on wheels. |
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That brake comparison summary is pretty good imo. There's more to it than upfront costs. Just from looking at the Brembo pad costs and thickness it's clear that it will cost more to operate in the long run. Also, the Sprint kit has good residual value so it's not a completely sunk cost. And it saves 10 lbs per rotor which is big. Rear BBK isn't necessary so the rear Brembo is just extra weight and pad/rotor expense.
RE: shocks. If you want to go stiffer than stock springs and lower, those Sachs probably aren't going to be of much use and/or will have a shortened lifespan. Aftermarket suspension will have residual value. Unless you have a class restriction you'll want wider wheels than 7.5". Don't get me wrong, the PP looks good, and the value of it does make sense for some. For the track, the parts are marginal improvements. The aftermarket isn't necessarily more expensive depending on your plans. |
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TBH, one reason I also decided to add the PP is because I want to try track days. I wasn't entirely sure I'd ever do a track day, but I figured I might as well be more prepped for that than not. Also, I want to take this car on the curvy backroads around here and while I probably won't push it super hard, esp. at the beginning, having the PP means I will be more confident in the car's abilities later. It's certainly a good thing to get just for future-proofing, _if_ you think you'll at some point likely make use of the benefits. |
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