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I know a lot of folks are into heavily tuning their cars but there's also a lot of fun in just running them as they are.
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You can get into Time Trials, and many racing orgs which do time trials have "stock" classes, but even the stock classes aren't actually "rolled off the showroom floor". As someone who has done affordable wheel-to-wheel, there isn't really an affordable way to get into competitive wheel-to-wheel racing. I built a Spec Miata as cheaply as possible, the only work I paid to have done was the roll cage, and I still spent around 40K. Just to run, absolutely not competitive. It would have been another 25K to have a competitive car, not to mention the cost to get the seat time to DRIVE competive. Unless you consider 24 Hours of Lemons "competitive wheel-to-wheel" racing. |
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Old school classes are probably better from a cost standpoint because you can get a cheaper, older car like a Civic or Integra which typically have a lower acquisition price and then go from there. However, it all really adds up. I know this sounds like a joke but hauling your car to a race on an open trailer behind your beat down SUV is certainly possible but it leaves you without the ability to have spare tires, tools, and other gear that you would probably need for a race weekend. Plus, you look like a peasant to the other drivers. ![]() |
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Thanks @RT-BRZ and @series.trackday, that certainly clears it up for me.
Guess I won't be getting into that any time. I understand the safety equipment need, but I also don't want to own a race car, I would just want to use the ability of the car I already own.
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Some organizations also offer TrackCross, which is "AutoCross on Tracks". Here is a short video of me doing a TrackCross session, on winter tires, with no prep. It cost me a $40 rego fee and an oil change afterwards. No mods on the car. |
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Personally, I enjoy doing things to my car. I don't mind spending the money that's within the budget I have so I can mod the car and drive it at all those things above. W2W is just a bridge too far. I would consider something like Chump Car or Lemons if I had friends to join me as well. Beyond that is just too much. The hard reality for any wanna be race car drivers is that you have to get to the upper echelon before you could be "paid" to drive. Below that is exponentially more money poured in than you could ever hope to get out. Buying a race car is an easy way to turn a lot of money into very little. ![]() |
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I quickly realized that if I was going to pursue w2w, it would have to be with a kart. Once again my 6'5" body gets in the way.
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Entry fees without work assignment are around $200 plus an extra $20 if you want to run some paced laps during the lunch break. Its awesome just being able to show up, turn some timed laps and head home without having to do any prep or worry about swapping pads/tires. I've done other forms of racing that are more fun, but I don't think there are many easier ways to get your feet wet. |
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No, probably not. SCCA safety level 3 is pretty extensive. I think a twin in T4 would be awesome but the competition in T4 is pretty stiff from what I've seen so the investment would be pretty stiff to be close to anyone. As much as I would love to get a T4 BRZ, it's probably the wrong level to start at for SCCA.
From the sounds of things, B-Spec, CSM or maybe CSX might be the right places to start but I don't fit in CSX, I hate B-Spec cars and I'm not a huge fan of a stick axle S197 Mustang so none of those are very enticing either. However, it doesn't matter. The investment into the cage alone is a lot of money. ![]() |
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Depending on the area of the country you live in, you may be able to find a "cheap" cagebuilder who'll do a spec-compliant cage for $2500-3000. Or you can get a multi-series compliant cage by a very reputable builder and only be out $7000.
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It's not that doing any of this is wrong but it's a lot of investment and that seems to be the real topic of conversation. |
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And, after you install the roll cage, you need a fire suppression system, a full-vehicle electrical cutoff (interior and exterior-accessible), a race seat, belts, restraints, etc. You're looking at 4K minimum. Last edited by series.trackday; 01-06-2025 at 10:23 AM. |
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