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10-17-2013, 05:16 PM | #1 | |
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Driver coaching and the risks of the passenger seat
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/features...ight-side-seat I've been in more wrecks than I care to count, including a 130+ one less than a month ago. I was lucky enough to walk away with nothing more than a ripped shirt and some sore muscles. Sean Edwards wasn't so lucky. Quote:
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Wow, that is a brutal way to go. Sorry to see that
Makes you think twice about getting in a car without knowing a driver Nick C.
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I heard about it this weekend..
He was a great racer and sucks that he had to go this way!! The only thing that i think is disrespectfull, is that nobody talk about the driver, the young kid, that also lost his life in the process. Everybody talks about Edwards. For sure he was reckon and people knew him, but still they were 2 in the car. |
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What a harrowing story, especially hearing about the fire and how it took 3 hrs to cut them out of the wreckage.
Very sobering reminder of the risks of driving at the track and the need to act responsibly, not just for yourself but for those who ride with you (and others on the track around you).
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Only one article I've read has identified the driver, and from the sounds of it, he wasn't inexperienced at all. Also, the driver isn't dead and he is expected to fully recover from his injuries.
This incident and article has made me appreciate all the instructors/coaches I've had over the years, as well as all the other instructors/coaches out there that have helped anyone else become a better driver. Thank you.
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I'm fairly selective about the cars I get into. Generally I only hop into cars with full race safety systems or completely intact OEM systems. I remember clearly thinking "oh f@%&" as I was heading toward a wall at ~130-135 in the last incident... but the car had untouched OEM systems, and I walked out just fine. I was surprised I had the presence of mind to go limp, rather than stiffen up for the impact. |
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Things that come to mind.
I am not suggesting this incident is not tragic. There is no such thing as zero risk. One can reduce risk but can not eliminate it. Only bad things make the news. You will never read/see "there were no accidents today". We, as a species, have trouble telling the difference between real risk (the probability of something happening) and perceived risk. I used to hang glide. I was at a competition one year where a guy spudded in. In a life threatening way, totally f**ked him up. No one in the competition pulled out. We all knew the risks (which are smaller than the general population thinks) and probably said to our selves he was just unlucky, that wouldn't happen to me. I am being just a little flippant (but serious at the same time) when I say no one gets out alive. (I recommend this book for more about risk. "Risk:The Science and Politics of Fear" by Dan Gardner) |
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A lot of the groups around here aren't all that restrictive on safety. For ITR Expo, we require 100% OEM (or OEM equiv - OEM belts, OEM or OEM style seats (OEMs from other cars, etc), no rollover protection) or 100% the other way - roll bar/cage, fixed back buckets and harnesses. Equal for driver and passenger required. However, locally groups don't seem to care and I've seen plenty of unsafe (IMO) setups.
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It happens in the motorcycle world as well. Instructor and student collided at Daytona during lead / follow and both were killed. Happened Thursday.
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