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Am I out of luck??
Hi everyone (first post),
I was debating purchasing the FR-S and the BRZ this summer and started to look at my options. I prefer all the options of the BRZ limited sport-tech package but dislike its front bumper/mustache appearance. The sales rep at Scion mentioned the Monogram model for the FR-S so I placed a down payment for the 2014 Monogram FR-S Raven MT model on April 7th. I also had my credit checked and approved for financing. Unfortunately, I was advised on April 12th that the dealership was not able to secure a manual transmission model due to its limited production (in any color in Ontario). So here are my options: 1) I would have to pay full price and pay approximately 2000$ to transport it from a few provinces (adding an additional $4000 to the cost of the vehicle). Is it really worth it? 2) Buy the BRZ limited and swap the front ends - I've been researching here and noticed that someone swapped the front end of the BRZ with the FR-S and was wondering if its easy and how much it would cost. Do I need to buy the FR-S fog and signal lights? 3) Buy the Standard FR-S Model, add fog lights, navigation system, the heated seat modification to the standard cloth seats, TRD rear spoiler, and accept the loss of non-transferable BRZ features. This option brings the price of the car to pretty much the base price of the BRZ limited. 4) Buy an aftermarket front bumper kit that fits the BRZ with fog lights like INGS. There's not many available unfortunately and it would probably cost less to pay for option 1). 5) Paint the front lip the same color of the car and replace the grill to black mesh grill to offset that mustache look. 6) Wait until the 2015s are out in the fall and hope for a 2015 Monogram. I don't like the the look of the yellow FR-S 1.0 or the white/WRB BRZ tS that has been discussed. Any help/advice would be appreciated! Thank you! P.S I apologize if this is in the wrong thread, I am a newbie. |
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1. Worth is really something only you can judge.
2. It's possible, but it seems like a good amount of work, and unless someone wants a direct swap, sourcing the parts is going to cost over 2k. 3. Seems like a lot of $ to get close to, but not at exactly what you want. 4. Agreed. 5. This could look ok, or turn out badly. You might love, like or hate it. Not worth the risk IMO. 6. This seems like your best option if you don't want to spend 2k extra. I've got another option for you: 7. Secure a MT Monogram somewhere else and buy a plane ticket to that city, drive the car back. Likely way less than 2k, and you get a road trip and great story out of it.
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I thought the same thing when I was going to buy my BRZ/FRS, however I couldnt find an FRS to buy. Just one BRZ existed, I bought it and I think I like its bumper better now. Maybe its grown on me, maybe it looks more grown up. Idk but dont let it decide which car you buy.
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+1 for fly out and drive it back.. Unlikely.. but maybe you can make a deal with the dealer to reimburse you for the flight ... I got that deal on a bike I bought in Seattle.
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Buy the regular plain FRS. It's the fastest. All the rest of those add ons weigh more and slow the car down. 😜
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Just note that Quebec got allocated far less than Ontario did so don't wait to long to phone around around.
Have you test driven the AT yet? There has been nothing but praise for the AT on this forum, and a lot of engineering went into making the AT not lose any of its "fun-to-drive" feel. I know its not what you want, and I don't want to make it sound like I'm forcing you, but you never know if your mind might change after a test-drive. There has been plenty of members who have said they ended up liking it, and it adds a sense of comfort for being stuck in traffic. |
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What colour are you looking for? I can look behind the scenes and see where they all are.
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04-13-2014, 02:24 PM | #9 |
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You mean a 15.3 vs a 15.5?
It's lighter, sure. but unless you're building a dedicated track car I think the creature comforts of HIDs, heated things, nav, a nice stereo outweigh the few tenths you might gain in the mile, or 0-60, especially when you are going to daily drive the car. The only way to make this car fast is with FI, and at that point all the adders don't really matter anymore.
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Hi everyone,
Thanks for your responses so far. I've had three cars, all of which have been old vehicles (my current one is a rusty 1999 Honda Civic) so this purchase means alot to me. I've been saving for quite some time after finally finishing paying off my student loans and I want to be happy with the car I end up choosing. I test drove the automatic FR-S and it was fun but I feel that I will get more enjoyment out of the car as a manual. I've been taking lessons with Proshift and I am looking forward to taking either the FR-S/BRZ for a rip. My commute to and from work is about 10km (sans highway) so I'm not really worried about traffic. I checked the price of a plane ticket and with added hotels along the way and gas money, its not cost efficient. I've contacted numerous dealers in the GTA and Montreal area (driveable distance) and hope they will get back to me early next week but with what firstscion mentioned, I might be SOL. that_guy - If you could check behind the scene, that would be really nice of you and appreciated! I would take either black or white. |
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BRZ = 2762
FRS = 2758 As per Scion and Subaru websites. Assume that's both base models. Now add heated seats, mirrors, HIDs, nav system, rear wing, telescoping steering wheel and you probably gain..100lbs over the base model? Well, Edmonds.com says 2776 for the BRZ limited, the heaviest of the bunch and they list the same weight as the Subaru site, 2762. After spending the last 10m looking at the weights I don't think it's as big a difference as most people think it is.
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honestly, just get the limited brz.
like you, i was big on the frs bumper, like it was a deal or no deal but as i own the frs more and more, both bumpers grew on me and i wish i had bought a limited brz, those extra features for 5k more is definately worth the price tag. shit, if they ever make a turbo version of our car, i am most likely selling my current and jumping ship, that or the new FT-1. |
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