high power-low db prototype muffler

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

The weight is what makes the sound clean and reduces overall dB levels. Generally speaking, you want to lose unsprung weight and weight above the standard center of gravity. Having weight on the bottom of the car is not a bad thing as long as it's close to the CG center axis.

Sure, that is a rational, measured response but my emotional irrational response is f**k, I'm a weight nazi and that's heavier than a carbon fibre/titanium version.

Yeah, yeah, I know, because compromise.

[Reamer]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Sure, this is a rational, measured response but my emotional irrational response is f**k, that's heavier than a carbon fibre/titanium version and I'm a weight nazi.

Then it's a good thing ACE confirmed the weight for us at 33lbs instead of 43lbs. Lol

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[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Sure, that is a rational, measured response but my emotional irrational response is f**k, I'm a weight nazi and that's heavier than a carbon fibre/titanium version.

Yeah, yeah, I know, because compromise.

Weight weight weight, then again, we've seen people proclaim smrt weight savings using an aluminum exhaust. That was gold. Carbon fiber exhausts...oh man...nobody cares about resins anyways.

Confucius say a strong dump session before a track session nets a 2lb savings and a calmer mind.

[Plxdjake89]

Originally Posted by AceHeader-MT

Monty- you and Reamer can have a contest to see who's arrives first. Scheduled for the same day

The reason we haven't answered the weight question yet is because it's heavy. Really heavy.

The early versions were like Maxime said, in the ultra-light category. However, in order to deaden sound without packing material, we had to use thicker-walled stainless.

After all the hangers, gaskets and hardware were measured- the muffler comes in at a gargantuan 11kg's

Let the blasting begin...

Any idea how much the muffler delete version weighs?

[Yoniyama]

Question on installation of the Laguna 90 Catback exhaust system:

Does it fit both the 2013 - 2016 FT86 (pre-facelift) and 2017+ (post-facelift)?

[Ultramaroon]

Couldn't stand waiting for the turn signal conversion. Installed the cat-back today. Mrs. Ultra was excited to ride along for first impressions.

On my car for the time being, everything upstream is bone stock.

We could tell immediately upon startup that this is the one. Nevermind cold start. We all know that sounds like shit, ...or does it? My wife turned to me and said "It sounds beefier."

It does sound beefier. There's a distinct bump in the bottom end but I wouldn't call it drone at all. Warmed up to normal operating temp standing behind the car as it idled, we could clearly feel each cylinder firing. This exhaust really does breathe freely.

It's a dream to drive with it. It finally sounds like a real sports car! It has a crisp, tight note in the cabin but is actually quieter than stock. What is truly amazing is how it behaves from 4.5 Krpm up to redline. The muffler is clearly tuned for maximum noise cancellation in the meat of the powerband. The "waaaa" sound of coming on to the pipe is completely eliminated.

I mean COMPLETELY. It has turned what used to be a muddy yet harsh tone into a beautifully composed musical experience.

Bravo, ACE! Bravo.

And a sincere thanks for delivering this product. It's a blessing.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Couldn't stand waiting for the turn signal conversion. Installed the cat-back today. Mrs. Ultra was excited to ride along for first impressions.

On my car for the time being, everything upstream is bone stock.

We could tell immediately upon startup that this is the one. Nevermind cold start. We all know that sounds like shit, ...or does it? My wife turned to me and said "It sounds beefier."

It does sound beefier. There's a distinct bump in the bottom end but I wouldn't call it drone at all. Warmed up to normal operating temp standing behind the car as it idled, we could clearly feel each cylinder firing. This exhaust really does breathe freely.

It's a dream to drive with it. It finally sounds like a real sports car! It has a crisp, tight note in the cabin but is actually quieter than stock. What is truly amazing is how it behaves from 4.5 Krpm up to redline. The muffler is clearly tuned for maximum noise cancellation in the meat of the powerband. The "waaaa" sound of coming on to the pipe is completely eliminated.

I mean COMPLETELY. It has turned what used to be a muddy yet harsh tone into a beautifully composed musical experience.

Bravo, ACE! Bravo.

And a sincere thanks for delivering this product. It's a blessing.

Thanks for the review!


I would love to see what the final product looks like installed. Any chance you would post a pic or two?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Calum

Thanks for the review!


I would love to see what the final product looks like installed. Any chance you would post a pic or two?

I can work that in.

[Reamer]

First day on internet kid meme more appropriate than I would have liked...

[Ultramaroon]

Bring on the flame throwers but I swear on my 40+ years of driving experience and skepticism, there's more torque there.

No, I'm not going to dyno it. I don't care that much but...

[Reamer]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Bring on the flame throwers but I swear on my 40+ years of driving experience and skepticism, there's more torque there.

No, I'm not going to dyno it. I don't care that much but...

I forget where I watched/read it, but someone mentioned they drove faster in cars with a quiet exhaust because you can get on the throttle more without causing such a racket.

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[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Reamer

I forget where I watched/read it, but someone mentioned they drove faster in cars with a quiet exhaust because you can get on the throttle more without causing such a racket.

Oh, I'm well aware of that. I'm always carefully feeling out response as I modulate the throttle. I can feel the difference between cold, crisp air and hot.

I drive the same exact boring route every day. I know every zit on the road. I'm not talking about WOT pulls here. It does climb to redline much more gracefully but it also responds to little pokes more eagerly. I've had to adjust my technique.

The difference in sound is subtle. The extra oomph is subtle too, but it's there.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Oh, I'm well aware of that. I'm always carefully feeling out response as I modulate the throttle. I can feel the difference between cold, crisp air and hot.

I drive the same exact boring route every day. I know every zit on the road. I'm not talking about WOT pulls here. It does climb to redline much more gracefully but it also responds to little pokes more eagerly. I've had to adjust my technique.

The difference in sound is subtle. The extra oomph is subtle too, but it's there.

Almost added a Brazzers trademark sign to this. LOL

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by CSG David

Almost added a Brazzers trademark sign to this. LOL

Maybe it's the weight.

Gotta drop a sack of potatoes in the trunk and go for another drive.