All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[Willpower]

Uh, hate to tell ya, but that dog wouldn’t hunt for me if it had 300 hp and 300 lb/ft. Style does matter to me, A LOT, whether it’s a 30k car or a 60k car. I really hope a whole lot of people like the car and buy it, but no way here, and it is completely to do with the styling of the new car, which for ME, sucks. There is literally not one thing I’ve found that I like about the changes they made, but that’s ME. My 2017 PP is a blast to drive, so much so that I’ve not had any desire to up the performance of the car, and for me, it looks great doing it. That’s my goal in any vehicle. I want one that’s fun, capable, and that LOOKS GREAT. For me, the new BRZ is a never own car unless the mid-cycle refresh knocks it out of the park. Which I highly doubt. But I do hope it sells, because 2 door coupes are about extinct.

Originally Posted by JesseG

But specifically looking at the 86/BRZ, we already know what a great car it is. The 2nd gen should improve that even further. The FA24 in this application will make more torque, more horsepower, and still rev above 7,000 rpm. I can almost guarantee everyone with a 1st gen will want one. Styling preferences aside.


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[Willpower]

But some people obviously like it fine and that’s cool haha. Like I said, hope it sells.

But to my eyes, damn.

Originally Posted by albert

One of those rare moments when the next car does look like a natural progress from the current one. I like it. 🙂

[JesseG]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Why didn'y they make the first ones turbo when the supra was still a picture on a drawing board then?
They are not "protecting the Supra" they are making the car they started out which was a low power NA not a turbo supercar.


How is beating the MX5 "clearly" a goal?


Who says they don't sell well? Are there piles around unsold? They sold all they made every year so they met plan. That is selling just fine. Let's not mix planned low volumes up with poor sales since they are two radically different things.

You’re right it’s actually quite the opposite. My local Toyota dealer will typically only have one or two new 86’s in stock at a time. My local Subie dealer usually has just a few BRZ’s also. Maybe that is up to each dealer. The twins have hopefully met sales expectations, and a redesigned 2nd gen means they feel it will continue to sell.


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by JesseG

You’re right it’s actually quite the opposite. My local Toyota dealer will typically only have one or two new 86’s in stock at a time. My local Subie dealer usually has just a few BRZ’s also. Maybe that is up to each dealer. The twins have hopefully met sales expectations, and a redesigned 2nd gen means they feel it will continue to sell.


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LOL I highly doubt they would have moved forward if they thought it wouldn't sell. Doesn't mean it will of course but their studies certainly said it would.
The next trick will be finding enough 17 to 25 year olds that will buy it new.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by JesseG

I’ve always been a sucker for the analog speedometer that begins further to the right than most gauges. The needle I mean. I only ever look at the digital speed display in the tach though. I will miss that for sure. It just works and is easy to read. I think I will like a digital tach, especially in this configuration.


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I love the new digital tach in track mode. Its kinda has retro vibe just using a modern screen.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I think the front looks fine. Looking at the fender, door and skirt area is killing me though. It's like they took a smooth curvy design and decided it needed some jarring angles and lines that don't match up with anything else.

Maybe it will look better in person, with a more top-down perspective rather than low shots everyone seems to want to take. I am hoping it does, because I like how the specifications turned out.

Like, I would be ok with it if they could show me legit wind tunnel and cfd data proving they chose function over form, but the form is just a bit disjointed as it is now. Hell, I might be ok with it anyway if it is a blast to drive.

Ford Escape.

[Cephas]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Ford Escape.

[new2subaru]

The first time I saw a Supra it matte grey


The first time I saw a Supra in white


The first time I saw a Supra in black


I need to see this car live in a bunch of colours before passing judgement but, so far, I like what I see.

[Dake]

Originally Posted by StormFalcon

Just not sure if it's worth 30k when you can get a well sorted supercharged gen 1 twin for <25k now.

I'm not sure comparing a brand new car with full factory warranty to a used car with aftermarket FI is really apples to apples.

Originally Posted by ZDan

I've never had oil or coolant temp problems with my '17 at the track, even on 95F days when my '11 2.9 Cayman would have coolant temp creep up and I'd have to back off after a few laps. Coolant and oil temps in the BRZ always stabilized. I've never had to back off or come in due to climbing temps.

You've also not had the new engine in your car at the track.

Originally Posted by JesseG

I wondered if anyone else was bothered by the plate mounting spot, because I am also We are supposed to have front plates in Texas but it’s never enforced. I was so happy to see that holes weren’t drilled in the front bumper when I got my car. Adding a mounting spot for a plate is even worse than drilled holes.

It didn't used to be enforced because there were no fines attached. They changed the law, so now you can get fined $200 for it.

[Willpower]

Not a big Supra fan in any color. UNTIL I saw one in that recent, limited edition blue (not sure the name of the hue). Amazing the difference a color can make but in that blue, that sumbitch was badass and I’d drive it in a heartbeat. I ain’t gonna buy it because it costs more than my BRZ and my 2002, 26,000 original mile S2000 PUT TOGETHER, and it’s not twice the car of either damn one. But it’s tough in blue.

Originally Posted by new2subaru

The first time I saw a Supra it matte grey


The first time I saw a Supra in white


The first time I saw a Supra in black


I need to see this car live in a bunch of colours before passing judgement but, so far, I like what I see.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Willpower

Not a big Supra fan in any color. UNTIL I saw one in that recent, limited edition blue (not sure the name of the hue). Amazing the difference a color can make but in that blue, that sumbitch was badass and I’d drive it in a heartbeat. I ain’t gonna buy it because it costs more than my BRZ and my 2002, 26,000 original mile S2000 PUT TOGETHER. But it’s tough in blue.

Refraction blue

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...00-units.3360/

[Guff]

I just hope the damn bumpers stay on the car in this gen

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by gymratter

Refraction blue



https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...00-units.3360/

If the GR86 gets this color it's gonna be hard for me to resist

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[ToySub1946]

Nice to now know that they've retained both under hood sounds at idle.


Engine sounds like a thrashing machine.


Crickets still loud and clear.