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Old 07-09-2013, 08:55 AM   #85
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i'm convinced ppl with STD models get more speeding tickets b/c it's almost impossible to look at how fast you're going...
Yep, the analogue speedometer is useless. They should have used that space for oil temp & pressure and had the digital speedo only.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:53 AM   #86
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i'm convinced ppl with STD models get more speeding tickets b/c it's almost impossible to look at how fast you're going...
Yep, you guys are right.
The analogue speedo is seriously crappy, especially if that's all you've got.
I've got a nice big digital speedo on my Torque Pro display and it helps - somewhat.
But it's not connected to my right foot.

I still need a cruise control for long trips.
The problem is that it's a fun and engaging car to drive, and I find myself not just speeding a little bit, but a lot.

I've got the same problem with my turbo Fozzie.
It naturally gravitates towards 170'ish where it's comfortable, but that's not OK.
If it didn't have a cruise control I'd have been in the slammer long ago.
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We still need to chat about that Fozzie of yours. I also want one.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:20 PM   #88
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Yep, the analogue speedometer is useless. They should have used that space for oil temp & pressure and had the digital speedo only.
We have a speedometer??? What witchcraft is this? I have a round dial on my dashboard but can't really see what it says on it!
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We still need to chat about that Fozzie of yours. I also want one.
A new XT is sadly over R500k now, but Fozzie resale value is terrible. Don't know why because they're brilliant.
So there are amazing deals to be had on s/h Fozzies if you shop around a bit.

eg: http://www.foresterforum.co.za/showthread.php?t=1363
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Thanks, that does seem like a bargain. I think they problem is that they don't look good in Sandton while climbing pavements. Their loss.

I need to sell my ST first but I'll be looking for a 2005/6 2.5 XT

Saw one for R99k with 104k on the clock in immaculate condition but the timing is not right.
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Thanks, that does seem like a bargain. I think they problem is that they don't look good in Sandton while climbing pavements. Their loss.

I need to sell my ST first but I'll be looking for a 2005/6 2.5 XT

Saw one for R99k with 104k on the clock in immaculate condition but the timing is not right.
You won't be making a mistake - it's a lot of car for little money.

Some considerations:
1. 100,000km service is a big one, about R12k (timing belts). Check whether done, and done properly.
2. Stock XT rear suspension is self-levelling and prone to failure if used harshly. Most Owners convert it to the standard, non self-levelling suspension. Standard looks like a normal McPherson strut, self-levelling has a second tube on the side and some small pipes.
3. XT's are very exciting to drive, but are heavy on fuel - be warned. Especially if you have an over-active right foot.
4. Goes like stink - my XT's licence weight is only 1425kgs, 165kw, 320nm - go figure... Enough torque to almost take your neck out of joint, and top speed limited to 220 which it reaches easily.

PS: And they're amazingly competent off-road too, with over 200mm ground clearance. However, the XT doesn't have low-range which the NA version does have, but the XT has quite a low 1st gear and exceptional low rev torque.
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Awesome, thanks! I have a very over-active right foot.

It'll be a weekend & holiday car though, so I doubt mileage and fuel cons would be a huge concern.

Realistically I'd probably be getting one with around 150k on the clock.
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