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N_Raged · 04-06-2021, 10:29 AM

Bolt pattern is still 5x100. I overlaid a photo of a 5x100 18" wheel on top of the new BRZ wheels and the lugs line up.

Sasquachulator · 04-06-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bristecom

Could very well be. Commiefornia supposedly just passed a law that will ban the sale of new cars with combustion engines sometime in 2030 and idiotically Japan seems to be go along with it so we may only see stupid electric vehicles going forward in the next decade.

The steering wheel looks exactly the same as the current BRZ so it's very likely the same diameter, BTW.

Japan lumped all the alternative propulsion together so hybrids, EV, and hydrogen are what they will be going for moving forward in 2035 i think.

So not just EV.
Besides, i think Toyota has enough hybrids and green energy cars to compensate for their green initiative that they can afford to pawn off some ICE vehicles to markets where the ICE bans arent in place yet (hence the existence of the Lexus IS500, which seems like its limited to North America and Australia)

WorldRallyB · 04-06-2021, 12:32 PM

I'd also like to point out that the official HP number f or both cars is actually 232hp, not the 228hp that was reported by Subaru months ago. Perhaps the 228hp is the euro model with the particulate filter?

NARFALICIOUS · 04-13-2021, 11:55 PM

Diff ratio?

PhilzFra · 04-21-2021, 04:05 PM

Any information about CO2 Emissions of FA24 engine for BRZ second gen?

chaoskaze · 04-21-2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WorldRallyB

I'd also like to point out that the official HP number f or both cars is actually 232hp, not the 228hp that was reported by Subaru months ago. Perhaps the 228hp is the euro model with the particulate filter?

228 is probably NA, Europe. Only Japan gets 232 cuz fuel & regulation?

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Sasquachulator · 04-21-2021, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilzFra

Any information about CO2 Emissions of FA24 engine for BRZ second gen?

Im curious about fuel economy figures.
Gas is starting to get expensive here.
Im not expecting it to like 87 just like the current one but im wondering if the fuel economy is improved.

boy_racer · 04-22-2021, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilzFra

Any information about CO2 Emissions of FA24 engine for BRZ second gen?

Living in Europe,i'd like to know too.I hope it is lower than gen 1

nikitopo · 04-22-2021, 02:25 PM

The lowest you could get with FA20 was 159 g/km in combined cycle using a 3.727 final drive ratio. Lower CO2 with a bigger engine? I doubt it ...

PhilzFra · 04-23-2021, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo

The lowest you could get with FA20 was 159 g/km in combined cycle using a 3.727 final drive ratio. Lower CO2 with a bigger engine? I doubt it ...

We all suspect CO2 emissions will be higher compared to current FA20 engine but by how much? that's the question!

No information so far on this CO2 topic...even in the brochure issued by Subaru Japan (I do not speak japanese but in the page on tech spec I see no number concerning CO2).

https://www.subaru.jp/brz/brz/

As the new BRZ is supposed to be launched commercially in US, Australia and Canada by the end of this year I was wondering if some information was already available in these countries?

Lantanafrs2 · 04-23-2021, 05:24 AM

Do manufacturers put c02 emissions on spec sheets?

boy_racer · 04-23-2021, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo

The lowest you could get with FA20 was 159 g/km in combined cycle using a 3.727 final drive ratio. Lower CO2 with a bigger engine? I doubt it ...

I don't even bother to look at the auto CO2😁

Manual was 181-180g/km (or 196g/km WLTP) and the new has a revised engine also a decade newer.I mean it could be lower but i don't believe it either.Anything above 200g/km(WLTP) would kill it in Europe if the 2400cc don't do it.

ZDan · 04-23-2021, 08:23 AM

I wouldn't bet the new car gets *worse* fuel mileage than the current-gen. CO2 emissions varies with inverse of mpg (or directly with L/100km), so I would bet CO2 emissions are likewise similar to current car despite increased displacement and power. We shall see!

PhilzFra · 04-23-2021, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Do manufacturers put c02 emissions on spec sheets?

It probably depends from one country to another?

In France they do. See for instance for the new Yaris GR (sorry it is in French)

see video if you do not have this model for sale in US?

https://www.toyota.fr/new-cars/gr-ya...ures-and-specs

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