Clutch Failure - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Ashybone · 06-11-2015, 02:37 AM

Before I post the pictures I just wanna apologize for the crappy cellphone pics. Especially for the one showing inside the bellhousing. I could hold my phone still since I was holding it at a weird angle since the guy was standing in my way. But looking at the flywheel, I don't think it has anywhere near the amount of abuse/wear that can justify the clutch.

Fastbrew · 06-11-2015, 02:54 AM

That clutch looks like it is off a Balkan farm vehicle.

Something's not right with this picture. Was this submerged ever?

Ashybone · 06-11-2015, 07:56 PM

No. We live in new mexico. There isn't anything deep enough for him to drive into.

nivek111070 · 06-12-2015, 08:52 AM

why is everything rusted?

HunterGreene · 06-12-2015, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nivek111070

why is everything rusted?

What rust?

JazzleSAURUS · 06-12-2015, 09:56 AM

Holy hell. In for the results of this. I can't say I've ever seen a clutch come out quite like that before.

Tcoat · 06-12-2015, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nivek111070

why is everything rusted?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

What rust?

I think that people may be seeing all the dust covered parts as rust. More likely just fine dust from the clutch facing.

Ashybone · 06-13-2015, 05:34 AM

Nothing's rusted. Like Tcoat said, its dust. A lot of it. I honestly believe for that amount of damage, especially inside the bellhousing, a spring must have gave up the ghost and scrapped everything else. I know its a clutch, but to me this all looks like a failure. This isn't normal.

swarb · 06-13-2015, 05:55 AM

I always ask for people with transmission/clutch problems--
1. Is this your first manual transmission car?
2. How much experience do you have?
3. Do you slip/feather the clutch in any other gear other than 1st? Do you rev match down shift? Do you hold the clutch pedal down at red lights?
Money shift?(missed gear or shifted to wrong gear at too high of a speed, ie 3rd gear going faster than 90+)
Did he rev-match downshift?
Which gear did he go for? and at what speed?
I've sold two cars where the new owner did not rev-match downshift and just force shifted from top gear to 3rd. Both blown clutches. One had a bent valves.

Ashybone · 06-15-2015, 12:36 AM

Not his first manual driven car.
He's had at least 6 years experience that I know of. Probably more.
He does rev match but that's about all I know. Well, that and he tried to down shift while on the highway and that's when the clutch let go. Don't know what gear he was in and going into.

UMB FR-S · 06-22-2015, 05:44 PM

literally just had this happen to me at the track this weekend. Identical to how you describe it happening to your friend. looks like its going to be a fight to get it replaced. I am hard on my vehicle but not hard enough to warrant the clutch to explode. haven't had it opened up yet but I'm assuming it will look the same. My car only has 22000kms on it (13750 miles) so this really should not be happening. Many people in the area have boosted fr-s and way more km/track time and their clutches are perfectly fine. Seems like the part fails on occasion for no reason.

Ashybone · 07-01-2015, 12:49 PM

So just for the record guys, he had to pay for it. They said it was going to be about $1400 to replace it then they dropped the price down to $1000. But in the end, the stealership won.

HunterGreene · 07-01-2015, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashybone

So just for the record guys, he had to pay for it. They said it was going to be about $1400 to replace it then they dropped the price down to $1000. But in the end, the stealership won.

I'd say that's a fair deal, especially at $1000. Had a clutch replaced on my tC and the final price was over $2500.

Ashybone · 08-21-2015, 03:45 AM

^^^^
Damn, that's kinda insane? What was the clutch made from Platinum?

06-11-2015, 02:37 AM	#15
Ashybone Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 97 Camry & 91 3000GT VR4 Location: new mexico (From Houston) Posts: 133 Thanks: 722 Thanked 45 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Before I post the pictures I just wanna apologize for the crappy cellphone pics. Especially for the one showing inside the bellhousing. I could hold my phone still since I was holding it at a weird angle since the guy was standing in my way. But looking at the flywheel, I don't think it has anywhere near the amount of abuse/wear that can justify the clutch. __________________ God Bless Toyota. They can still make sports cars that actually run, Mitsubishi... Learn from them.

06-11-2015, 07:56 PM	#17
Ashybone Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 97 Camry & 91 3000GT VR4 Location: new mexico (From Houston) Posts: 133 Thanks: 722 Thanked 45 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No. We live in new mexico. There isn't anything deep enough for him to drive into. __________________ God Bless Toyota. They can still make sports cars that actually run, Mitsubishi... Learn from them.

06-12-2015, 09:56 AM	#20
JazzleSAURUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 15 BRZ LTD, 05 FXT Location: Western MA Posts: 1,032 Thanks: 561 Thanked 558 Times in 351 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Holy hell. In for the results of this. I can't say I've ever seen a clutch come out quite like that before. __________________ SOLD: 2015 WRB BRZ Limited ('02 WRX BBS, S-04's, Stoptech Sport pads, MXP SP, AVO drop in filter, Mishimoto Intake tube, decatted header, OFT 93 Stage 2 EL Tune, Kartboy rear shifter bushing, Whiteline transmission and subframe lockout bushings, ST Coilovers, SPC Camber bolts w/smaller crash bolt, SPC LCA's & SPC Toe Arm bushings, Red TOMs, TRD Wing.)

06-13-2015, 05:34 AM	#22
Ashybone Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 97 Camry & 91 3000GT VR4 Location: new mexico (From Houston) Posts: 133 Thanks: 722 Thanked 45 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nothing's rusted. Like Tcoat said, its dust. A lot of it. I honestly believe for that amount of damage, especially inside the bellhousing, a spring must have gave up the ghost and scrapped everything else. I know its a clutch, but to me this all looks like a failure. This isn't normal. __________________ God Bless Toyota. They can still make sports cars that actually run, Mitsubishi... Learn from them.

06-15-2015, 12:36 AM	#24
Ashybone Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 97 Camry & 91 3000GT VR4 Location: new mexico (From Houston) Posts: 133 Thanks: 722 Thanked 45 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not his first manual driven car. He's had at least 6 years experience that I know of. Probably more. He does rev match but that's about all I know. Well, that and he tried to down shift while on the highway and that's when the clutch let go. Don't know what gear he was in and going into. __________________ God Bless Toyota. They can still make sports cars that actually run, Mitsubishi... Learn from them.

06-11-2015, 02:54 AM	#16
Fastbrew Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2014 Pearl White BRZ Location: USA Posts: 764 Thanks: 123 Thanked 461 Times in 233 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That clutch looks like it is off a Balkan farm vehicle. Something's not right with this picture. Was this submerged ever?

06-12-2015, 08:52 AM	#18
nivek111070 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 GB Scoobie BRZ Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 115 Thanks: 121 Thanked 37 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	why is everything rusted?

06-13-2015, 05:55 AM	#23
swarb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,053 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,451 Times in 1,271 Posts Mentioned: 79 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I always ask for people with transmission/clutch problems-- 1. Is this your first manual transmission car? 2. How much experience do you have? 3. Do you slip/feather the clutch in any other gear other than 1st? Do you rev match down shift? Do you hold the clutch pedal down at red lights? Money shift?(missed gear or shifted to wrong gear at too high of a speed, ie 3rd gear going faster than 90+) Did he rev-match downshift? Which gear did he go for? and at what speed? I've sold two cars where the new owner did not rev-match downshift and just force shifted from top gear to 3rd. Both blown clutches. One had a bent valves.

07-01-2015, 12:49 PM	#26
Ashybone Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 97 Camry & 91 3000GT VR4 Location: new mexico (From Houston) Posts: 133 Thanks: 722 Thanked 45 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So just for the record guys, he had to pay for it. They said it was going to be about $1400 to replace it then they dropped the price down to $1000. But in the end, the stealership won. __________________ God Bless Toyota. They can still make sports cars that actually run, Mitsubishi... Learn from them.

08-21-2015, 03:45 AM	#28
Ashybone Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 97 Camry & 91 3000GT VR4 Location: new mexico (From Houston) Posts: 133 Thanks: 722 Thanked 45 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^^^ Damn, that's kinda insane? What was the clutch made from Platinum? __________________ God Bless Toyota. They can still make sports cars that actually run, Mitsubishi... Learn from them.

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