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Old 05-18-2018, 11:11 AM   #15
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Yes im sure the topic has been discussed in other threads before HOWEVER the threads i found were not specific enough and suspension is definitely not my strongest area. SO Id like to be running the best coilover possible mostly for the drop in ride height and durability, the car is strictly driven on the street. I was looking into PBM and The BC BR series. Looking for price range around 1k. Thanks for any help you can give and if your aware of a thread that may have all the info I need please link me to it because i couldnt find much

How much of a drop?


Arguably you need quality dampers on the street just as much as on a track, most streets are in significantly worse shape than a track and with crap dampers (and overly stiff springs) you'll be bouncing and skipping around.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:00 PM   #16
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I always read these threads...



I have springs because of them....

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80158


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79526


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124794


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66725


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51505
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Old 05-18-2018, 04:52 PM   #17
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I have the Tein Flex A installed on my FRS on stock wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+. My number one reason why I got the Flex A is because I wanted a softer ride. I have a 2013 FRS so the suspension is stiffer than 2015+. I have the ride height set to what Tein Recommended. The Flex A has Hydraulic Bump stops vs rubber ones on the Flex Z.

I have tried running the car on max stiffness and it feels like a boat rocking back and forth on normal streets. I have tried the recommended 8 clicks from stiff and it feels like stock which I find is a little too stiff for the roads I have in LA. I have tried setting it to 16 clicks which is Max Dampening, but it feels too floaty for the car but you can still feel really harsh bumps in the road. I have it set to 10 clicks and it's perfect. Softer than stock but still handles well.

I don't plan to track my car so daily drivability is my #1 concern.

If I had to do it again, I would get the Normal Flex Z instead of the A. I don't think I notice much of the HBS but the Flex A is rebuildable where the Z is not. When the time comes to replace the coils again, I would rather rip and replace everything than just the damper.

Tein is also a good brand, the Flex Z is around 850 dollars where the Flex A is around 1100.
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With $1000 budget... Flex-Z can be had for less than $800 and you'll still have money left over to get camber kit, which you may or may not even need. Surprisingly good for dampers at this price point.
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Camber kit? o_O
Flex Z & Flex A sets include own camber plates.
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Camber kit? o_O
Flex Z & Flex A sets include own camber plates.

I'd venture to guess the thought was to add rear LCA.


Getting all that stuff aligned will take some funds too.
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I'd venture to guess the thought was to add rear LCA.


Getting all that stuff aligned will take some funds too.
You would guess correctly, Lca’s will be purchased at the same time which is why im doing my best to budget accordingly
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How much of a drop?


Arguably you need quality dampers on the street just as much as on a track, most streets are in significantly worse shape than a track and with crap dampers (and overly stiff springs) you'll be bouncing and skipping around.
im going for fitment on 18’s so somewhere north of 2in obviously with fine tuning which is why ive decided on coils instead of springs. To be frank the only things im concerned with is durability (something that wont be clapped after a year) and something that i can (somewhat) adjust to tailor the ride comfort.

For everyone saying that 1k coils are not worth the buy, this car will only ever see public roads and for all I care the coils could have the performance characteristics of stock suspension, if it was height adjustable id use that.
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On bumps or hard cornering you will rub the inner fender liner in the front with that much drop. Just fyi.
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Planned drop of >2"? That is almost halving stock ground clearance of 4.9" and if it had been stock shocks, it would leave 0.5" bump travel & ride on bumpstops (from ~2.5" bump travel including bumpstops & ~ 3.5" droop travel). Coilovers can do better for this case, but ..

I guess it's not worth to give any advises based on performance/handling/comfort & compliancy at this point. Extreme lowering car for very slammed looks is obvious priority to everything no matter illeffects.
I predict though that it won't be as simple keeping budget low though, as at higher drop levels much more parts need to be changed then just coilovers.
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Yeah a 2” drop on this car is a lot. Ideally you’d want to install taller ball joints and differential risers to compensate. I’d say 99% of people who slam these cars don’t do that. It does lead to geometry issues and broken CV joints though.
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im going for fitment on 18’s so somewhere north of 2in obviously with fine tuning which is why ive decided on coils instead of springs. To be frank the only things im concerned with is durability (something that wont be clapped after a year) and something that i can (somewhat) adjust to tailor the ride comfort.

For everyone saying that 1k coils are not worth the buy, this car will only ever see public roads and for all I care the coils could have the performance characteristics of stock suspension, if it was height adjustable id use that.

2" drop will require really stiff springs and in the $1000 price range will ride way worse than stock, regardless of how you adjust them. Plus, with a 2" drop you'll be compromising the suspension geometry and it'll handle worse than stock.
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I'm on 2" of drop and it isn't too bad. There is a bit of rub but that is about it. I even had an instructor take my car out for a couple laps and he thought it rode pretty well on a rough track with lots of curbing.
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