AP Racing brake systems in development

[track_warrior]

Super exited just got word that Essex Parts is developing two different kinds of AP brake systems for our cars!! The lightest one is 3 pounds lighter per corner so lighter even than the STI brembos!! Cant wait to get these on my car!!! For those of you who know AP you know they make serious braking products for race cars i ran their J hook rotors on my GT-R and they were by far the most long lasting and cooling efficient rotors for that car, lotus drivers praise them because they are proven around a race track IMO the best bang for the buck.

Here are the links to pictures and the weight specs:
http://www.essexpartsblog.com/news/E...em-Development


http://www.essexpartsblog.com/news/S...System-BRZ-FRS

[mines13]

Interesting, I was actually looking at the Stillen 4pot AP package. I assume no dust seals on these since they are a full racing caliper?

[RRnold]

AP's are the shit!

[UncleFester]

Nice post. Looks like an excellent product.

Here is a copy and paste from their website that answered most of my questions;

With a target retail price of approximately $2,195, it's going to be very tough finding another modification to the car that will offer more benefits per dollar.

Approximately 8 lbs. unsprung weight reduction from both front corners of the car.

Incredible array of inexpensive brake pad options.

These pads are far larger/thicker than stock, and will last a very long time on the FT86. You'll replace your pads a lot less often, saving money in the long-term
Mitigation of pad knockback due to 4lb. anti-knockback springs in the calipers.

Caliper finish that is highly resistant to wear and deterioration under high heat track conditions
Stainless steel caliper hardware for a long caliper service life under frequent pad change conditions
High temperature, low drag seals that will hold up to track temps better than OEM components= less rebuilding and longer service life

No dust boots to burn up and make a big mess
Simple pad change with one bolt and no spring clips (no tapping out the pins as you would on an STI Brembo.)

Extremely compact package for superior wheel fitment.

Stainless steel pistons that keep heat out of your brake fluid to resist fluid fade during extended track sessions.

Lifetime professional caliper rebuilding support by Essex (at a fee)- pull off your calipers, send them to us, we clean, inspect, and rebuild and return them.

High airflow, heavy duty AP Racing J Hook brake discs that weigh 5 lbs. less than the OEM units despite their larger size, available at an extremely competitive replacement price ($158 each).

AP Racing J Hook slot design that gives more pad bite/feel, and distributes heat evenly throughout the disc.

Disc metallurgy specifically designed to handle the temps typically seen on track offers a long service life
Highest quality, Spiegler stainless steel brake line with clear sheath that reduces compliance over OEM rubber design.

Much more attractive appearance vs. OEM FT86 brakes

Saves your OEM components in good condition, so you can reinstall them when you sell your car.

Because of their quality and trusted brand name, AP Racing brake systems hold their value well in the used market, and you will get a considerable amount of money back out of them when you decide to part and sell your car.

[jamal]

Sweet. This kit has been out for the WRX/STI for awhile now and was one of the first things I thought of for a brake upgrade for this car. No need for a big heavy kit with gigantic rotors.

[Tainen]

Wow... these look great. Very well priced imo, and the rotors only being $158 and being lighter weight? very cool.

The question is really, do we actually need to upgrade the sizing of the brakes for the general HPDE attendee? The car is so light, the stock brakes might hold up well enough with good pads, fluid and lines.

Lighter rotating mass though... that's really tempting.

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by jamal

"In development" is kind of funny because it's a kit that already exists for the WRX/STi. I don't think they'll have to change much for the BRZ. Not that I'm saying it isn't a good kit; it was one of the first things I thought of for a brake upgrade for this car because it's not a big heavy kit with gigantic rotors and should be perfect for these cars.

They are test fitting several wheels and stuff this kit cleared my enkei rpf1's in 17x8 +45 ill confirm later today that it clears work emotion kiwamis in 18x8.5 +47

BTW is anybody as exited as me for this KIT!! Lightweight + Stopping Power FTW!!!

Here is a pic of the template on the enkeis:

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Tainen

Wow... these look great. Very well priced imo, and the rotors only being $158 and being lighter weight? very cool.

The question is really, do we actually need to upgrade the sizing of the brakes for the general HPDE attendee? The car is so light, the stock brakes might hold up well enough with good pads, fluid and lines.

Lighter rotating mass though... that's really tempting.

Stock with good pads and fluid will good for many, but this will definitely help for those that go to stickier tires and track their car a lot.

- drew

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by Tainen

Wow... these look great. Very well priced imo, and the rotors only being $158 and being lighter weight? very cool.

The question is really, do we actually need to upgrade the sizing of the brakes for the general HPDE attendee? The car is so light, the stock brakes might hold up well enough with good pads, fluid and lines.

Lighter rotating mass though... that's really tempting.

I believe the benefits of the weight saving + the stopping power and cooling effectiveness should be enough to help you encourage your decision. The car is light the stock brakes are good, ap brakes are just better remember the rotors are 2 piece so it helps cool them as well. I agree with racecomp on the sticky tires part no point in getting very sticky tires if your brakes are not up to the task.

[UncleFester]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Stock with good pads and fluid will good for many, but this will definitely help for those that go to stickier tires and track their car a lot.

- drew

Well said

[Apex Chase]

Outstanding. The gains from a lighter brake package with improved performance is amazing.

[JRitt]

Hi Guys,
Let me know if anyone has any specific questions on these two systems. I tried to answer as many tech questions in my blog post as possible, but I'm sure I missed something! We will have prototype parts in-house within the next few days. We'll be test fitting, and then track testing them in our project car. I'll update this thread and our blog with developments as they occur. If all goes as planned, the Endurance package is also going to have a provision for a brake duct built right into the caliper bracket, which I've never seen done before...should be pretty slick.

Target pricing on these will be in the $2,195 range for the Sprint package, and $2,495 for the Endurance package. It's tough to give a final price right now because we won't know exactly what will be in each kit until all of the prototyping and testing is done.

Interesting, I was actually looking at the Stillen 4pot AP package. I assume no dust seals on these since they are a full racing caliper?

We are also working with AP Racing to spec out a few other kits, from their Formula line of products. These will use painted calipers with dust boots, etc., and will contain a few enhancements that Essex has specifically requested. We're going to have a four piston front kit that will fit the OEM 17" wheels, a six piston front, and four piston rear. These will all be fully built in England at AP's facility, and they are using some cool new caliper designs. I'll post more pics and info on these setups as we move forward. These setups will be a little more expensive than the competition systems.

Sweet. This kit has been out for the WRX/STI for awhile now and was one of the first things I thought of for a brake upgrade for this car. No need for a big heavy kit with gigantic rotors.

Our Endurance kit is essentially the same as what we're doing on the STI, EVO, Corvette, M3, etc. We decided that a lighter version would be more appropriate for many of our customers running this platform. The disc we're using (CP3862) is the same as what we're using in our recently released S2000 kit. It saves a ton of weight over stock, has a ton of benefits, and is insanely cheap for a top quality racing disc.

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Here's my question, do these clear the stock wheels?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by JRitt

We are also working with AP Racing to spec out a few other kits, from their Formula line of products. These will use painted calipers with dust boots, etc., and will contain a few enhancements that Essex has specifically requested.

Never picked up your WRX/STI kit because it didn't have dust seals. I know dust seals suck, but for a road car I consider them a necessity.

Now tell us about that prototype exhaust system you're allegedly working on.