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Old 08-17-2021, 04:01 PM   #99
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but none have said the car actually IS faster
Just watch the first minute of the Hagerty review.
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Old 08-17-2021, 04:03 PM   #100
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From the Car and Driver review:

“The pedal positioning makes heel-toeing somewhat tricky, but with some tweaks to your foot placement, it's possible.“

Assuming this means the pedal box has changed, as 1st Gen pedals were perfectly positioned for heel & toe.

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Old 08-17-2021, 04:07 PM   #101
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Check out the Savage Geese video.
For some reason, some of the 1st gen automatics they had at the presentation didn't have paddle shifters. Perhaps pre-production prototypes?
It sounds like from others that some sold outside the US didn't have paddles. I wasn't aware of that.
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From the Car and Driver review:

“The pedal positioning makes heel-toeing somewhat tricky, but with some tweaks to your foot placement, it's possible.“

Assuming this means the pedal box has changed, as 1st Gen pedals were perfectly positioned for heel & toe.

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It's the same pedal box. And the first-gen car is def NOT perfect for heel and toe. I remember Toyota specifically apologizing to us at launch because they have corporate rules to keep the gas pedal a certain distance from the brake after the whole "unintended acceleration" fiasco of the 2000s. I never liked the pedal box on these cars, you have to stretch like a MF.
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Just watch the first minute of the Hagerty review.
That's one of the one's I watched. It doesn't really answer the question for me. OK, it's sort of faster than a Miata, assuming both drivers have the same skill set.

Like I said I assume it is, and some of the articles confirm it (about 0.9 seconds with the MT and 1.6 seconds with the AT, although I think that's suspect).

I guess we'll have to wait for the full blown reviews before we can confirm how much faster it is.
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Old 08-17-2021, 04:23 PM   #104
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Throttle House on Youtube drag raced a first gen refresh against the new model. GR86 was at least four or five car lenths ahead through the quarter mile, representing probably two to three tenths of a second.
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Old 08-17-2021, 04:47 PM   #105
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That's one of the one's I watched. It doesn't really answer the question for me. OK, it's sort of faster than a Miata, assuming both drivers have the same skill set.
The new one is clearly faster than an ND2 Miata, and the old one was known to be slower.
That was the whole point of that drag race
It was not just "it is faster", it was "and here is proof".

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I guess we'll have to wait for the full blown reviews before we can confirm how much faster it is.
Jason Cammisa on his IG: "I got an easy 5.6-second 0-60 (w/ rollout. 5.9 sec without.)" https://www.instagram.com/p/CSrFHQ_HRvr/
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It's the same pedal box. And the first-gen car is def NOT perfect for heel and toe. I remember Toyota specifically apologizing to us at launch because they have corporate rules to keep the gas pedal a certain distance from the brake after the whole "unintended acceleration" fiasco of the 2000s. I never liked the pedal box on these cars, you have to stretch like a MF.
I didn't spend that much on a pedal adapter from Verus for fun! I wonder if it will crossover to the GR86...
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I guess we'll have to wait for the full blown reviews before we can confirm how much faster it is.
5:40 in this video:

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Ah so aluminum pedals only for premium while first Gen it all came standard.
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It's the same pedal box. And the first-gen car is def NOT perfect for heel and toe. I never liked the pedal box on these cars, you have to stretch like a MF.
Thanks for that info.
Gen1 pedal box seems “perfect” to me HOWEVER admittedly a) I long ago drank the Toyobaru Koolaid and b) I don’t have much experience with anything better. Old school (size 10) Converse All Stars (-:, I don’t have a difficult time reaching/blipping the throttle while on brake.

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That Hagerty video had me smiling like an idiot. Completely re-sold me on a car I was already sold on
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Jason Cammisa on his IG: "I got an easy 5.6-second 0-60
Damn. S2000 who?
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Damn. S2000 who?
Almost 20 years later.
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