Take that all 86/FR-S/BRZ haters!!!!!!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

Computer broke using phone. Phone likes to change words when I don't want and leave ones that should change. Need to proof read even more that normal.

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Computer broke using phone. Phone likes to change words when I don't want and leave ones that should change. Need to proof read even more that normal.

No worries, you should see what my text messages look like

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

No worries, you should see what my text messages look like

Ya but looked like I had a stroke or something.

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ya but looked like I had a stroke or something.

I swear my phone was updated with a new patch that makes texting screw up on purpose. you = toy......lets = key.....go = goop.....have = heve.....WTF is a heve?!
The speech to text thing works best instead of you typing and the phone re-configuring what you type to be nonsense.

[KalbiCool88]

Or you can just go through the motions of owning the car and just addressing what goes wrong as it comes up. Problems are bound to come up on any car.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by KalbiCool88

Or you can just go through the motions of owning the car and just addressing what goes wrong as it comes up. Problems are bound to come up on any car.

Sure, but not everyone who buys a brand new car wants to spend thousands in repairs only a couple of years after ownership.

Overall reliability isn't as big of a deal when you are doing your own work, but if you are paying a certified Mercedes/Porsche/BMW mechanic to constantly replace parts on your car it can really bleed you dry over time. Especially when you factor in insurance and maintenance costs.

[PetrolioBenzina]

The initial poor reputation of the FR-S/BRZ was based on this forum and the number of complaints about crickets and the lack of an arm rest.

[why?]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

The initial poor reputation of the FR-S/BRZ was based on this forum and the number of complaints about crickets and the lack of an arm rest.

yea, no. There were several real issues with the 13's.

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by why?

yea, no. There were several real issues with the 13's.

Mine had none of them other than crickets, and that didn't bother me at all and I used it hard.
Anybody who read this forum in passing from 13 to 15 would have seen nothing but crickets and arm rest complaints.

[paulca]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Mine had none of them other than crickets, and that didn't bother me at all and I used it hard.
Anybody who read this forum in passing from 13 to 15 would have seen nothing but crickets and arm rest complaints.

Rattles.

[guybo]

Originally Posted by KalbiCool88

Or you can just go through the motions of owning the car and just addressing what goes wrong as it comes up. Problems are bound to come up on any car.

No, they are not. I've owned a few cars new off the lot that I owned and never had a problem with. This is the standard and what I expect. I have a owned a Jetta new off the lot that was one problem after another and that's why I'll never buy another VW. If a car company doesn't meet the minimum standard of reliability, I won't give them money again and I see it everyday where people do.

Some people have this attitude that every car has problems so they keep going back to that manufacturer. Most people buy a car based on how it looks and "reputation" and never look into real reliability trends and numbers. It's the Jeep syndrome. Jeep used to make a decent car, then the new century came, they were scooped up by Fiat and they make shit, but morons still buy them based on this "reputation". Then you have morons who completely ignore the stats and base car purchase on 1 car a friend had that worked OK.

I see these sorts of conversations on this forum. My uncle had a Jeep Grand Cherokee and it's a great car, he put 200k on his back in the 80's! Fiat makes great cars, my brother's friedn's uncle's sisters cousin, mother-in-law's nephew had one and it was rock solid. Meanwhile, these are 2 of the least reliable cars on the road today by the numbers. Sure, the ecoboost turbo fords are fast by the numbers, but maybe if you dig deeper you'll see that they are not the best option because of the annoying habit they have of eating that turbo, head gaskets blowing and heaven help you if you decide to get the Powershit trans or Ford Connect for that matter.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Mine had none of them other than crickets, and that didn't bother me at all and I used it hard.
Anybody who read this forum in passing from 13 to 15 would have seen nothing but crickets and arm rest complaints.

I could be totally wrong about some of this, but I'm pretty sure some MY13s have issues with the direct injection that requires a reflash from the dealer. Coil packs seem like a common weak link. Also, some kind of cam gear plate or something is prone to leaking oil. And finally, the hardware around the TOB is subpar, requiring some kind of intervention or you risk blowing your clutch prematurely.

Some of those aren't specific to just MY13s though. I'm sure I'm missing a couple things, but I own a MY14 so I didn't pay close attention to the MY13 issues.

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I could be totally wrong about some of this, but I'm pretty sure some MY13s have issues with the direct injection that requires a reflash from the dealer. Coil packs seem like a common weak link. Also, some kind of cam gear plate or something is prone to leaking oil. And finally, the hardware around the TOB is subpar, requiring some kind of intervention or you risk blowing your clutch prematurely.

Some of those aren't specific to just MY13s though. I'm sure I'm missing a couple things, but I own a MY14 so I didn't pay close attention to the MY13 issues.

I'm not denying there were some other issues, but those were mostly in the tech forums where most of the serious owners were found. General was full of (mostly) utterly idiotic complaints that I do believe drove the early slam by Consumer Reports(?) against the car.

[VoltsFRS2013]

When people hate on your cars it's usually not because of the reliability but more so because it can get smoked by a Camry.