To buy or not to buy

[Airzza]

The Salesman called back last night and I said id take it if they dropped the price 2k, or else im just going to wait for the 2nd gen. I honestly doubt id buy it even if they dropped the price 2k at this point LOL

I know this is a speculative question, but how many years do you think it will take them to release another PP or start releasing special editions? How long after the first gen did they start to release them?

Also, is a PP good value for money? Or is the aftermarket usually less expensive, Including labor I have no place to work on my own vehicle and minimal tools for once in my life. (I used to fix and flip diesel trucks and hondas in Alaska. Was a rewarding side hustle)

[soundman98]

iirc, the pp was only like a $5k increase. Brakes alone are about $3k for front only, backs are another $1500 new, not including install, and then it still got upgraded but non-adjustable dampers-- if you get serious, these would get swapped anyways, so hard to price that.

[HKz]

2 K less is still a shit price. If you're paying anything above $25 K even if it is for one with the PP, it seems much smarter just to fork up the extra money for a new one with a clean driving history because let's face it a good chunk of folks truly beat on these cars. Personally I wouldn't pay more than $20 K on a used twin. A clean 15 or 16 which had the highest reliability years according to CR, you can source most of the PP gear from a part out or just go aftermarket, plenty of good options out there. Only thing might need to watch for is the TOB but many folks have had their dealership change it out.

[Dzmitry]

Originally Posted by soundman98

iirc, the pp was only like a $5k increase. Brakes alone are about $3k for front only, backs are another $1500 new, not including install, and then it still got upgraded but non-adjustable dampers-- if you get serious, these would get swapped anyways, so hard to price that.

PP is super cheap if purchased as a package.

"The BRZ Performance Package is well-priced at just $1,195."

Stock or even aftermarket BBK for this car runs far greater than that, not including installation fees, etc. The PP is an absolute bargain.

[JesseG]

Originally Posted by Dzmitry

I skimmed through what people are saying, blah blah blah. I think the main reason you SHOULDN'T get this one, at least for now, is simply price. At 12K miles, that fully loaded BRZ still seems way too expensive. Go look for the thread where people used to post their purchase prices based on their trim and options. I got a Limited with PP and one of the optional packages for 26K with only 8 miles on it. This is a shit time to buy.

Prices are sky high for the twins right now in the used market. It’s not an ideal time to buy one. But finding a low mileage one that hasn’t been crashed, modified, etc will become more difficult. There are still some new ones out there also, and honestly that’s probably the best way to go if you want a first gen. Or wait until used car prices return to earth and the second gen is out.
My advice is to wait for the second generation


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[bucketfoot]

Keep in mind that while prices are high right now, your trade-in value is also going to be elevated. So there is a good chance that the net difference in cost now versus say a year ago is reasonably similar.

Personally if you are happy with the Jetta and don't expect any major costs (quite hard to know of course), I would probably hold off until this whole automotive industry mess subsides. But keep in mind that that could be as far off as 2023.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by bucketfoot

Keep in mind that while prices are high right now, your trade-in value is also going to be elevated. So there is a good chance that the net difference in cost now versus say a year ago is reasonably similar.

Personally if you are happy with the Jetta and don't expect any major costs (quite hard to know of course), I would probably hold off until this whole automotive industry mess subsides. But keep in mind that that could be as far off as 2023.

i genuinely believe it's going to be longer. i'm fully expecting the globe is going to go into full shutdown again this winter, due to our general non-response to covid.

but that's likely a debate for a different thread...

[JCC]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i genuinely believe it's going to be longer. i'm fully expecting the globe is going to go into full shutdown again this winter, due to our general non-response to covid.



but that's likely a debate for a different thread...

maybe even a different forum..

[2020BRZtS]

I spent more time picking out my last cell phone than I did deciding to buy a twin. I can respect wanting other's opinions but anyone else's opinion doesn't impact your wallet.

buying a car is like buying a laptop. As soon as you get it home it's obsolete. Within 12 months there will be a "better" one and your Jetta will have that much more depreciation. Don't get fooled by the numbers game. Our cars aren't worth more right now... the dollar is worth less. When the dollar rebounds cars will be cheaper and your trade will be worth less.

Check your budget and if you can afford it buy now. You cannot put a price on lost time with a twin.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by 2020BRZtS

You cannot put a price on lost time with a twin.

if he's getting a loan for the remaining amount after trade, i'm pretty sure the bank can put a price on it!

[bucketfoot]

Being that I am an old fart, I know that I am not the typical twin owner. But I will definitely say that being able to pay cash for it was a major factor in my opting for the 86 versus the other two options in my final three.

[wheelspeed]

Originally Posted by bucketfoot

Being that I am an old fart, I know that I am not the typical twin owner. But I will definitely say that being able to pay cash for it was a major factor in my opting for the 86 versus the other two options in my final three.

I don't understand your comment... surely you can pay cash for anything. Are you saying two out of your final three wouldn't accept cash for a car?

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by wheelspeed

Are you saying two out of your final three wouldn't accept cash for a car?

I would assume he didn't have enough cash for the other two options and would have had to take a loan to pay for them.

[bucketfoot]

Originally Posted by wheelspeed

I don't understand your comment... surely you can pay cash for anything. Are you saying two out of your final three wouldn't accept cash for a car?

I had a designated amount of cash that was specifically allocated to go towards a new car. The 86 was the only model that I could pay cash for with this specifically allocated amount.

Now that was not the primary reason for getting the 86, and I easily could have afforded the other options. But certainly not having a loan was an added bonus of selecting the 86.