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View Poll Results: How many 86 owners are planning on getting the Supra?
I'm definitely getting one 28 12.56%
I might get one if they offer a MT 87 39.01%
No, not me. 108 48.43%
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:48 PM   #1737
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Um, 1) duly noted and 2) don't shoot the messenger.

I just thought it was an interesting observation by the editors and test drivers at MT since everyone raves about the (more expensive) M cars (here, the M2.)
The authors probably could have worded it differently, e.g., Supra had similar lap times to cars that costs X times more.
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Old 10-23-2019, 02:18 PM   #1738
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Those times are too close to each other to declare the Supra the faster car.
I believe the quote said it beat the M2. Ever watch drag racing? A car can win (or beat another car) without being faster in the quarter mile. I think they would have to repeat that win with multiple drivers over multiple tracks to finally be able to claim the car was a faster car, which wasn't what they were trying to claim or present.

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Really because it takes longer to read "1:40.57 versus 1:40.83" than the time represents. a 0.13% or 0.14 second difference in time is just a shoulder shrug unless you were in a head to head drag race. Take one turn 6 inches wider than the other and you probably have a bigger time difference.
The accolade is noteworthy because the Supra is quoted as being less powerful and costs less.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:06 PM   #1739
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Not sure why this is a surprise. The M2 is heavier and has an older less capable chassis design based on a taller longer GT car rather than an actual more compact sports car. That's almost like those 86 versus Mustang or Camaro comparos.

M2 Competition w/ DCT:
Wheelbase: 106.0 in
Length: 176.2 in
Width: 73.0 in
Height: 55.5 in
Passenger volume: 89 cu ft
Trunk volume: 14 cu ft
Curb weight: 3628 lb

Supra:
Wheelbase: 97.2 in
Length: 172.5 in
Width: 73.0 in
Height: 50.9 in
Passenger volume: 51 cu ft
Cargo volume: 10 cu ft
Curb weight: 3372 lb

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Old 10-24-2019, 05:48 PM   #1740
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What is surprising is the M3 is lighter.
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:01 AM   #1741
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Is that the Intercooler that flexed that much without snapping?

Pretty impressive.
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I read the owner was doing a test and tune on the road, lost control, and went into a tree.
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Old 10-27-2019, 01:04 PM   #1745
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Is that the Intercooler that flexed that much without snapping?

Pretty impressive.

The intercooler is built into the intake manifold on the top of the engine. That has to be a bumper reinforce or something?
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Is that the Intercooler that flexed that much without snapping?

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The intercooler is built into the intake manifold on the top of the engine. That has to be a bumper reinforce or something?
Possibly the AC condenser?
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Possibly the AC condenser?
Looks like the Flux Capacitor to me.
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Looks like the Flux Capacitor to me.


Don't think it reached 88mph before hitting the tree...
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TOYOTA GAZOO Racing to commence sales of GR Supra GT4 in March 2020

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toy...rch-2020.2734/

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