Drove a Prius today.... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Tromatic · 07-18-2015, 09:15 PM

One of the big ones, the Prius V. I borrowed it from my sister to drag my seabag to my new compound. Jeebus, that thing sucks. If you are starting to wonder about the awesomeness of your FR-S/BRZ, drive almost anything else to be reminded of how friggin' lucky we are to have it.

The Prius is totally isolated from the road, or at least as good as it gets in a Prius. The steering was amazing on the freeway. Here's a turn, "ten degrees left rudder". WTF, nothing is happening. "20 degrees left rudder!" Now, all of a sudden, you get all 20 degrees and bunch of roll. Now you have too much rudder on and a serious list. Correct a bit to the right. Shit! Nothing is happening! A bit more right rudder! And again, you get it all at once. I used to think Prius drivers were NDF's (Non-driving Fucks) but I am now willing to concede that the car itself is an NDF.

Passing lane? Great, I can get around this brain-dead Prius driver. Wait.... All head full! WTF. I said ALL AHEAD FULL! WTF. ALL AHEAD FLANK! Finally, with great dignity, we begin to gain on the car ahead. When finally ahead, repeat the flappy-tiller steering. I will no longer blame my sister for causing me to white-knuckle it when she is driving. It's not her fault I'm seasick and we are going so slowly that we are going to be run down by a brodozer, it's the car.

J. Clarkson was right when he said everything about the 86 is immediate. It responds instantly and predictably to the smallest steering input, and you can feel it in both the steering wheel and gut. The car rotates around my ass like my MC does. It IS like a 250cc bike. The gas pedal will not save you, and if that is the only tool (or fun you have) "you bought the wrong fucking car". Throttle response is instant (providing you are in the right gear or not in the "torque dip", and if you can't do either you suck, get a Prius). You can feel trailing and off-throttle, and you have real engine-braking. You can feel what the car is doing, unlike the totally numb Prius. Seat of the pants vs. I have become comfortably numb.

I almost crashed because of the brakes. Unlike my fellow Oregonians, I'm looking two or three cars ahead, not at the bumper of the car directly in front of me, or better yet, a cell phone. Brakes on, three cars ahead! I'm already braking before the dolt ahead notices and I was still almost too late on the brakes. I'm just short of panic-braking, and I'm thinking this must be how it feels to crash an oil tanker. Stop, you fuck!

The FR-S/BRZ/86 is a fucking BRILLIANT car. I've said it before, and will say it again, knowing full well it will bring out the 'tards: this car is a taste of supercar for us plebes. It really is a miracle it got built at all.

Aozora.BRZ · 07-18-2015, 09:28 PM

But can you do this with the 86??

Tcoat · 07-18-2015, 09:30 PM

Wow Trom I didn't know you could write so much.
I with you 100%. Getting back to my car after that rental Charger was a thing of beauty.

Jegan_V · 07-18-2015, 09:45 PM

I work with fleet cars so this is a daily occurrence for me.

The Prius and all its variants like the C and V are indeed very numb. The Audi A4 probably will satisfy most drivers...for me though apart from the quick steering, I found it not very interesting. The new Mustang GT...I didn't get enough of a drive from it but its probably the only thing that comes close to being interesting enough for me. The previous gen Mustang GT, love the engine...didn't love the wheel hop. The interior was also a bit hard to love...many weren't assembled with care. The Camaro V6 I definitely wasn't interested in, since that V6 feels overburdened thanks to the great weight in the Camaro. It also doesn't help the Camaro is like a cave inside and the center console looks really bad due to the cheapness of that plastic. The Challenger R/T...nice but way too big, too heavy and disappointing in corners.

Although because of the range of cars I get to drive at work...I must admit that I've driven some pretty awful stuff that makes even the Priuses look like amazing. The Mitsubishi Mirage for instance...the only car I've ever driven that produces body roll with a gentle 10 km/h turn. Chrysler Sebring convertible...never have I driven a car that produced so much hate filled emotions. I've even driven some really slow stuff like the Dodge Magnum with a 2.7L V6. They claim it has 190 hp...it felt like 5 hp, I actually think its even slower than a modern VW Jetta with that relic known as the 8 valve 2.0L aka 2 point slow.

This is generally why I actually consider our cars to be acceptably quick, very well built, well engineered and of course extremely fun. It could've been so much worse. So yes, I'm very pleased owning this car. Frankly the only boring thing about it is how drama free my ownership experience has been...and I'm ok with that being very boring.

jdmblood · 07-18-2015, 10:28 PM

How are the primacy tires on the prius lmaoo

The Tor · 07-18-2015, 11:25 PM

I drove a Prius for six years before getting my frs. Get over in the right lane and stay there. The fuel mileage was great, but that stupid fuel bladder was a pain in the ass to fill. Easily the one thing I hated the most about that car. Miss the cargo room.

Ultramaroon · 07-18-2015, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic

I've said it before, and will say it again, knowing full well it will bring out the 'tards: this car is a taste of supercar for us plebes. It really is a miracle it got built at all.

It's way better than my 240Z ever was. The only other remotely "interesting" car I've driven was the Formula SAE we built in college.

Also 100% with you, Trom. People either get it or they don't. Period.

weederr33 · 07-19-2015, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Wow Trom I didn't know you could write so much.
I with you 100%. Getting back to my car after that rental Charger was a thing of beauty.

Wait woah, you didn't get rid of your FR-S?!

(sorry didn't read the whole thread you made)

Ultramaroon · 07-19-2015, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

(sorry didn't read the whole thread you made)

Clearly.

Hotrodheart · 07-19-2015, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic

One of the big ones, the Prius V. I borrowed it from my sister to drag my seabag to my new compound. Jeebus, that thing sucks. If you are starting to wonder about the awesomeness of your FR-S/BRZ, drive almost anything else to be reminded of how friggin' lucky we are to have it.

The Prius is totally isolated from the road, or at least as good as it gets in a Prius. The steering was amazing on the freeway. Here's a turn, "ten degrees left rudder". WTF, nothing is happening. "20 degrees left rudder!" Now, all of a sudden, you get all 20 degrees and bunch of roll. Now you have too much rudder on and a serious list. Correct a bit to the right. Shit! Nothing is happening! A bit more right rudder! And again, you get it all at once. I used to think Prius drivers were NDF's (Non-driving Fucks) but I am now willing to concede that the car itself is an NDF.

Passing lane? Great, I can get around this brain-dead Prius driver. Wait.... All head full! WTF. I said ALL AHEAD FULL! WTF. ALL AHEAD FLANK! Finally, with great dignity, we begin to gain on the car ahead. When finally ahead, repeat the flappy-tiller steering. I will no longer blame my sister for causing me to white-knuckle it when she is driving. It's not her fault I'm seasick and we are going so slowly that we are going to be run down by a brodozer, it's the car.

J. Clarkson was right when he said everything about the 86 is immediate. It responds instantly and predictably to the smallest steering input, and you can feel it in both the steering wheel and gut. The car rotates around my ass like my MC does. It IS like a 250cc bike. The gas pedal will not save you, and if that is the only tool (or fun you have) "you bought the wrong fucking car". Throttle response is instant (providing you are in the right gear or not in the "torque dip", and if you can't do either you suck, get a Prius). You can feel trailing and off-throttle, and you have real engine-braking. You can feel what the car is doing, unlike the totally numb Prius. Seat of the pants vs. I have become comfortably numb.

I almost crashed because of the brakes. Unlike my fellow Oregonians, I'm looking two or three cars ahead, not at the bumper of the car directly in front of me, or better yet, a cell phone. Brakes on, three cars ahead! I'm already braking before the dolt ahead notices and I was still almost too late on the brakes. I'm just short of panic-braking, and I'm thinking this must be how it feels to crash an oil tanker. Stop, you fuck!

The FR-S/BRZ/86 is a fucking BRILLIANT car. I've said it before, and will say it again, knowing full well it will bring out the 'tards: this car is a taste of supercar for us plebes. It really is a miracle it got built at all.

Three guesses what I traded in on MY FR-S?

Impureclient · 07-19-2015, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodheart

Three guesses what I traded in on MY FR-S?

What kind of weirdo would own 3 Prii?

Yes, "prii" is correct.... http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.VatBqvlVhBc

obscene_gesture · 07-19-2015, 06:59 AM

I own a gen II and a gen III Prius. Forgetting I'm not in my FR-S, I'll sometimes try to take a sharp corner in one of them a bit too aggressively, and things get a bit interesting.

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MaximeT · 07-19-2015, 07:51 AM

I plan tu buy a GT86 AND a Prius o:
I like both engineering

Brndn704 · 07-19-2015, 08:46 AM

Just as I'm about to trade my FR-S in on another car...

07-18-2015, 09:15 PM	#1
Tromatic Banned Join Date: May 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,232 Thanks: 61 Thanked 1,728 Times in 786 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Drove a Prius today.... One of the big ones, the Prius V. I borrowed it from my sister to drag my seabag to my new compound. Jeebus, that thing sucks. If you are starting to wonder about the awesomeness of your FR-S/BRZ, drive almost anything else to be reminded of how friggin' lucky we are to have it. The Prius is totally isolated from the road, or at least as good as it gets in a Prius. The steering was amazing on the freeway. Here's a turn, "ten degrees left rudder". WTF, nothing is happening. "20 degrees left rudder!" Now, all of a sudden, you get all 20 degrees and bunch of roll. Now you have too much rudder on and a serious list. Correct a bit to the right. Shit! Nothing is happening! A bit more right rudder! And again, you get it all at once. I used to think Prius drivers were NDF's (Non-driving Fucks) but I am now willing to concede that the car itself is an NDF. Passing lane? Great, I can get around this brain-dead Prius driver. Wait.... All head full! WTF. I said ALL AHEAD FULL! WTF. ALL AHEAD FLANK! Finally, with great dignity, we begin to gain on the car ahead. When finally ahead, repeat the flappy-tiller steering. I will no longer blame my sister for causing me to white-knuckle it when she is driving. It's not her fault I'm seasick and we are going so slowly that we are going to be run down by a brodozer, it's the car. J. Clarkson was right when he said everything about the 86 is immediate. It responds instantly and predictably to the smallest steering input, and you can feel it in both the steering wheel and gut. The car rotates around my ass like my MC does. It IS like a 250cc bike. The gas pedal will not save you, and if that is the only tool (or fun you have) "you bought the wrong fucking car". Throttle response is instant (providing you are in the right gear or not in the "torque dip", and if you can't do either you suck, get a Prius). You can feel trailing and off-throttle, and you have real engine-braking. You can feel what the car is doing, unlike the totally numb Prius. Seat of the pants vs. I have become comfortably numb. I almost crashed because of the brakes. Unlike my fellow Oregonians, I'm looking two or three cars ahead, not at the bumper of the car directly in front of me, or better yet, a cell phone. Brakes on, three cars ahead! I'm already braking before the dolt ahead notices and I was still almost too late on the brakes. I'm just short of panic-braking, and I'm thinking this must be how it feels to crash an oil tanker. Stop, you fuck! The FR-S/BRZ/86 is a fucking BRILLIANT car. I've said it before, and will say it again, knowing full well it will bring out the 'tards: this car is a taste of supercar for us plebes. It really is a miracle it got built at all.

07-18-2015, 09:30 PM	#3
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Jegan_V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2023 Subaru BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 433 Thanks: 67 Thanked 275 Times in 156 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I work with fleet cars so this is a daily occurrence for me. The Prius and all its variants like the C and V are indeed very numb. The Audi A4 probably will satisfy most drivers...for me though apart from the quick steering, I found it not very interesting. The new Mustang GT...I didn't get enough of a drive from it but its probably the only thing that comes close to being interesting enough for me. The previous gen Mustang GT, love the engine...didn't love the wheel hop. The interior was also a bit hard to love...many weren't assembled with care. The Camaro V6 I definitely wasn't interested in, since that V6 feels overburdened thanks to the great weight in the Camaro. It also doesn't help the Camaro is like a cave inside and the center console looks really bad due to the cheapness of that plastic. The Challenger R/T...nice but way too big, too heavy and disappointing in corners. Although because of the range of cars I get to drive at work...I must admit that I've driven some pretty awful stuff that makes even the Priuses look like amazing. The Mitsubishi Mirage for instance...the only car I've ever driven that produces body roll with a gentle 10 km/h turn. Chrysler Sebring convertible...never have I driven a car that produced so much hate filled emotions. I've even driven some really slow stuff like the Dodge Magnum with a 2.7L V6. They claim it has 190 hp...it felt like 5 hp, I actually think its even slower than a modern VW Jetta with that relic known as the 8 valve 2.0L aka 2 point slow. This is generally why I actually consider our cars to be acceptably quick, very well built, well engineered and of course extremely fun. It could've been so much worse. So yes, I'm very pleased owning this car. Frankly the only boring thing about it is how drama free my ownership experience has been...and I'm ok with that being very boring.

07-18-2015, 10:28 PM	#5
jdmblood Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: white subaru brz Location: miami Posts: 825 Thanks: 158 Thanked 289 Times in 183 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	How are the primacy tires on the prius lmaoo

07-18-2015, 11:25 PM	#6
The Tor Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 13 FR-S Argento Location: Citrus County, FL Posts: 17 Thanks: 4 Thanked 73 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I drove a Prius for six years before getting my frs. Get over in the right lane and stay there. The fuel mileage was great, but that stupid fuel bladder was a pain in the ass to fill. Easily the one thing I hated the most about that car. Miss the cargo room.

07-19-2015, 06:59 AM	#12
obscene_gesture Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S Location: United States Posts: 42 Thanks: 3 Thanked 34 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I own a gen II and a gen III Prius. Forgetting I'm not in my FR-S, I'll sometimes try to take a sharp corner in one of them a bit too aggressively, and things get a bit interesting. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

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Brndn704 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 622 Thanks: 72 Thanked 564 Times in 271 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just as I'm about to trade my FR-S in on another car...

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