I wrote a thing - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

CatDaddysBBQ · 06-29-2021, 02:23 PM

as the resident 86 expert on the Everyday Driver staff, I went to the soft launch at Toyota North America HQ earlier this month.

Here's what I thought:

https://www.everydaydriver.com/singl...ew-86-is-close

I also welcome any questions/etc - I couldn't put EVERYTHING I learned in the article.

Phantobe · 06-29-2021, 02:45 PM

Great read, answered a lot of my questions.

Im probably gonna try to buy used this time around if I stick with the platform.

Definitely wanna wait till I see the new z.

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Lantanafrs2 · 06-29-2021, 02:55 PM

Best info so far imo.

Opie · 06-29-2021, 03:39 PM

Nice pics in the article....from Eagles Canyon Raceway in Texas....I was there the week after Toyota....

DarkSunrise · 06-29-2021, 03:47 PM

Nice article. Pretty much confirmed what I had been expecting. The new car is going to feel like a 2013 FR-S running e85 and will make about the same power.

Also agree with it looking like a gen 1 with a bad body kit, but glad to hear it looks better in person.

I still love my 2013 (e85, track mods, weight reduction) even after owning it 9 years, but looking forward to the gen 2’s. I’ll probably upgrade down the road.

Lantanafrs2 · 06-29-2021, 03:51 PM

I think the extra cubes will make the power feel more natural than my e85 car.

Kronk · 06-29-2021, 04:13 PM

Nice article. I didn’t understand how you recovered 40cv (a big improvement on a naturally aspirated engine) but I don’t think it makes sense to compare tuned vs stock, at least for 2 reasons: 1) with stock you travel without any fear of cops. 2) Tuned 2.4l would rebalance differences between the two stock engine.

Sasquachulator · 06-29-2021, 04:20 PM

Did it feel any more refined or quieter than the first gen car?
how was the sound?

timurrrr · 06-29-2021, 06:26 PM

Did they tell you why they're hiding the Neptune Blue GR 86 so well?

timurrrr · 06-29-2021, 06:44 PM

Quote:

the base model [comes with] the same type of brakes the base car has always had. The PREMIUM comes [with] slightly upgraded brakes

Are you sure they'll have different brakes?

The press release is written as if the brakes were identical between trims:
https://pressroom.toyota.com/drivers...all-new-gr-86/

nextcar · 06-29-2021, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr

Are you sure they'll have different brakes?

The press release is written as if the brakes were identical between trims:
https://pressroom.toyota.com/drivers...all-new-gr-86/

The only "upgraded" brake info I have heard is at the 5:24 mark at this dealer training video, and is not stated as model specific.

timurrrr · 06-29-2021, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Has been revised and upgraded ...

... may mean as little as different pad clips or piston boots.

Quote:

... for increased stopping force ...

... as if the 1st gen base brakes were unable to outbrake the tires.

saltywetman · 06-29-2021, 07:31 PM

haha i thought Todd was the brz/frs/86 expert in ED. he does sure seemed to love the car in the vids even after selling

Dirty Harry · 06-29-2021, 08:40 PM

Thanks for the write up, very good. Can’t wait to see it in person and take one for a spin!

06-29-2021, 02:45 PM	#2
Phantobe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 14 Ultramarine FR-S Location: SOCAL Posts: 795 Thanks: 381 Thanked 413 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Great read, answered a lot of my questions. Im probably gonna try to buy used this time around if I stick with the platform. Definitely wanna wait till I see the new z. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk __________________ 2014 Ultramarine Scion FR-S 2000 Integra LS - SOLD

06-29-2021, 03:47 PM	#5
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Nice article. Pretty much confirmed what I had been expecting. The new car is going to feel like a 2013 FR-S running e85 and will make about the same power. Also agree with it looking like a gen 1 with a bad body kit, but glad to hear it looks better in person. I still love my 2013 (e85, track mods, weight reduction) even after owning it 9 years, but looking forward to the gen 2’s. I’ll probably upgrade down the road. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

06-29-2021, 07:31 PM	#13
saltywetman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Drives: 2020 Toyota 86 GT 6M Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 413 Thanks: 298 Thanked 270 Times in 137 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	haha i thought Todd was the brz/frs/86 expert in ED. he does sure seemed to love the car in the vids even after selling __________________ saltywetman's overnight parts from japan NA build

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