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Old 10-26-2020, 10:10 AM   #15
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To go ever so mildly off-topic, I do wish the manual mode was as aggressive and quick in its shifting as the car is in Drive with Sport mode active. The hesitation between gear changes in manual feels like a lifetime compared to when the car is in Sport, and it's inconsistent in when and how it will shift up or down. And that said, the Sport mode is pretty intelligent when you're driving aggressively when it comes to holding a gear and downshifting under heavy braking.

To the OP, your question has been answered by several others, but don't treat the car like it's precious or made of glass. Properly maintained, the car will be very unlikely to have any serious issues, and what you're doing is no different than if you put your foot down on the gas pedal more while the car thinks for two seconds and skips down to the gear it needs... automatically.
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Old 10-26-2020, 11:45 AM   #16
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To go ever so mildly off-topic, I do wish the manual mode was as aggressive and quick in its shifting as the car is in Drive with Sport mode active. The hesitation between gear changes in manual feels like a lifetime compared to when the car is in Sport, and it's inconsistent in when and how it will shift up or down. And that said, the Sport mode is pretty intelligent when you're driving aggressively when it comes to holding a gear and downshifting under heavy braking.
I've noticed no difference between auto and manual modes with this, although I rarely drive in auto with Sport mode activated. I'll have to try that to see if I see a difference.
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I've noticed no difference between auto and manual modes with this, although I rarely drive in auto with Sport mode activated. I'll have to try that to see if I see a difference.
My experience is it shifts a little faster in sport mode, but not earth shattering. I wonder myself if itís real or perceived.
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My experience is it shifts a little faster in sport mode, but not earth shattering. I wonder myself if itís real or perceived.
Itís real, sport shifts at around 3-3.5k rpm. If Iím doing the speed limit in sport Iíll sometimes notice the car sits in 3rd gear at about 3k rpm and Iíll pop it into manual and upshift myself. It downshifts a lot faster aswell when you start braking- feels like the car doesnít roll with as much momentum if Iím coming to a stop in sport mode

Itís hard to say if it makes the car drive completely better or if itís just good in certain driving scenarios
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It’s real, sport shifts at around 3-3.5k rpm.
Yea, there is a definite difference in Auto with Sport mode on/off, but I thought @Earnest72 saying is the transmission seemed to shift faster in auto/sport than it did in manual/paddles.e

Maybe I misunderstood.

Regardless I drove it half way home tonight (split 40 miles) in both modes (AT/Sport and MT/Sport/NonSport) and couldn't tell a difference in the actual shift time.
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Yea, there is a difinite difference in Auto with Sport mode on/off, but I thought @Earnest72 saying is the transmission seemed to shift faster in auto/sport than it did in manual/paddles.

Maybe I misunderstood.

Regardless I drove it half way home tonight (split 40 miles) in both modes (AT/Sport and MT/Sport/NonSport) and couldn't tell a difference in the actual shift time.
I only drive the car in manual mode but thought the shifts were a bit snappier in sports mode.

OP I'm going to assume you mean driving on the highway in 6th and dropping it down to 4th quickly to accelerate. That's how it sounds to me. It'll be fine.
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These rev match when you downshift right? Can't imagine it'd be a problem. Just figure you may want to change the AT fluid sooner than what the manual says if you drive it hard.
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Itís real, sport shifts at around 3-3.5k rpm. If Iím doing the speed limit in sport Iíll sometimes notice the car sits in 3rd gear at about 3k rpm and Iíll pop it into manual and upshift myself. It downshifts a lot faster aswell when you start braking- feels like the car doesnít roll with as much momentum if Iím coming to a stop in sport mode

Itís hard to say if it makes the car drive completely better or if itís just good in certain driving scenarios
I'm gonna blow your mind with this one...

You can use your paddles while in auto mode.
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Yea, there is a definite difference in Auto with Sport mode on/off, but I thought @Earnest72 saying is the transmission seemed to shift faster in auto/sport than it did in manual/paddles.e

Maybe I misunderstood.

Regardless I drove it half way home tonight (split 40 miles) in both modes (AT/Sport and MT/Sport/NonSport) and couldn't tell a difference in the actual shift time.
You are correct, so it must be perceived.
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Regardless I drove it half way home tonight (split 40 miles) in both modes (AT/Sport and MT/Sport/NonSport) and couldn't tell a difference in the actual shift time.
The difference doesn't really reveal itself if you're just cruising around and driving pretty normally. It makes a difference during times where you're going WOT and braking heavily. I've noticed that the car upshifts faster in Sport. In manual I have to almost hit the paddle earlier than I'd think I need to in order for it to shift when I want it to, and the gear change isn't as quick into that next gear as it is in Sport. Downshifting in manual is sometimes pretty quick (referring to how quickly the transmission responds after a paddle pull), sometimes not so quick. The only way I can get the transmission to downshift in Sport is under heavy braking, and it will drop however many gears it needs to in order to keep the rpms up higher for when you get back on throttle.

So I guess if you can find yourself a nice lonely and twisty road, or ideally some track time, you'd be able to see what I mean. That's really the situation the mode was designed for. In any sort of normal driving all it will really do is hold the gears a little longer before shifting up, and usually stops itself at 4th gear at most road going speeds.
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Since I mostly drive in manual mode, it has been a long time since I used the sport mode. But sports mode did not give any impression of quicker shifting. It just delays upshift, promotes downshift as I remember, effectively increasing the rpm at mostly lower speeds. I can do that much better myself as needed in the manual mode.
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