What if...Honda and Mazda joint together to come up something to compete with 86? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

86BRZ · 01-20-2013, 11:18 AM

I know Honda and Mazda is fully capable to built their sports car, just like Toyota and Subaru. Just fantasy chatting here so how would you think?

sdiver68 · 01-20-2013, 11:18 AM

Great! Competition is good for all of us.

Beyer Subaru · 01-20-2013, 11:26 AM

There is no relations between Mazda and Honda.

You would more likely see a Mazda 3/Focus/S40 type effort. I don't think that Volvo and Ford still have a relationship. But I believe that Ford is still tied to Mazda in some way.

Snoopyalien24 · 01-20-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 86BRZ

I know Honda and Mazda is fully capable to built their sports car, just like Toyota and Subaru. Just fantasy chatting here so how would you think?

They wont team up

Even if in another dimension they did... Then that means more competition... hooray

BRZfan · 01-20-2013, 11:37 AM

It would be a hellava car! Certainly better electronics which are dismal on the BRZ.

chenshuo · 01-20-2013, 11:38 AM

If Honda is using the same design team that designed the 2012 Civic, then I'll pass.
If Mazda builds the same quality as of their 2001 Mazda 3, then I'll pass.

Imagine if Honda uses the design team that designed the 2012 Civic and let Mazda build it... Uh Oh... We gonna have an ugly looking car that rusts in no time.

If that's the reverse then I would have to see.

BRZfan · 01-20-2013, 11:45 AM

A 2001 Mazda was designed more the 13 years ago. I'll give you a 50% rating.

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Originally Posted by chenshuo

If Honda is using the same design team that designed the 2012 Civic, then I'll pass.
If Mazda builds the same quality as of their 2001 Mazda 3, then I'll pass.

Imagine if Honda uses the design team that designed the 2012 Civic and let Mazda build it... Uh Oh... We gonna have an ugly looking car that rusts in no time.

If that's the reverse then I would have to see.

Wankel Rex · 01-20-2013, 11:48 AM

The BRZ is what the next RX7 should have been. I'm not sure the Wankel is a viable engine anymore, though. Which is a shame as I always enjoyed the 'exotic' nature of owning an RX7.

But, I'm fully invested in my BRZ now so the loss is offset.

ReVoiD · 01-20-2013, 12:23 PM

its in swedish but mazda and alfaromeo are teaming up to develop the new mx5 / coupe car togheter... should be intressting..

http://www.automotorsport.se/artikla...ensam-sportbil

link is in swedish but you get the point..

google search: 4c alfa romeo

still a concept.. but you get the point..

Jedi1 · 01-20-2013, 12:26 PM

I think Spyker and Gumpert should build a competitior to the FRS/BRZ. Bring it!

fatoni · 01-20-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ReVoiD

its in swedish but mazda and alfaromeo are teaming up to develop the new mx5 / coupe car togheter... should be intressting..

http://www.automotorsport.se/artikla...ensam-sportbil

link is in swedish but you get the point..

google search: 4c alfa romeo

still a concept.. but you get the point..

the 4c is not the mazda/alfa car. the 4c is a 60k+ elise type deal.

Turbowned · 01-20-2013, 01:40 PM

Mazda and Honda have built some great sports cars in the past; if they ever were to work together to build a sports car, the result would undoubtedly be spectacular, as long as they keep it gasoline-powered and don't screw around with hybrid/diesel drivetrains. Those are awesome for economy, not going fast or having fun! *cough* CR-Z *cough*

zigzagz94 · 01-20-2013, 02:31 PM

mitsubishi motors (not the keiretsu) and mazda maybe as they're both relatively small and it would be financially difficult for them to go at a new 86 style sportscar on their own. honda doesn't really have to partner up and neither does nissan.

go2brz · 01-20-2013, 03:58 PM

Mazda and Alfa Romeo have joined together to build a shared platform for the new 2015 Alfa Spider and a brand new MX-5 Miata. Only the platform will be shared. The bodies of both cars will be different and designed by each company respectively. The Alfa Romeo will have it's own engine and suspension as well.

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01-20-2013, 11:18 AM	#2
sdiver68 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 98 Thanks: 55 Thanked 37 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Great! Competition is good for all of us.

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Beyer Subaru Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ SWP 6AT Ltd Location: Alexandria, VA. Posts: 1,607 Thanks: 859 Thanked 776 Times in 485 Posts Mentioned: 37 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	There is no relations between Mazda and Honda. You would more likely see a Mazda 3/Focus/S40 type effort. I don't think that Volvo and Ford still have a relationship. But I believe that Ford is still tied to Mazda in some way.

01-20-2013, 11:37 AM	#5
BRZfan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013BRZ Premium St Silver Metallic Location: USA Posts: 824 Thanks: 79 Thanked 212 Times in 156 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	It would be a hellava car! Certainly better electronics which are dismal on the BRZ.

01-20-2013, 11:38 AM	#6
chenshuo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 1,260 Thanks: 259 Thanked 473 Times in 245 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If Honda is using the same design team that designed the 2012 Civic, then I'll pass. If Mazda builds the same quality as of their 2001 Mazda 3, then I'll pass. Imagine if Honda uses the design team that designed the 2012 Civic and let Mazda build it... Uh Oh... We gonna have an ugly looking car that rusts in no time. If that's the reverse then I would have to see.

01-20-2013, 11:48 AM	#8
Wankel Rex Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Silver Premium Edition BRZ Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 102 Thanks: 34 Thanked 33 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The BRZ is what the next RX7 should have been. I'm not sure the Wankel is a viable engine anymore, though. Which is a shame as I always enjoyed the 'exotic' nature of owning an RX7. But, I'm fully invested in my BRZ now so the loss is offset.

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ReVoiD Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: mazda 6 mps Location: sweden Posts: 21 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	its in swedish but mazda and alfaromeo are teaming up to develop the new mx5 / coupe car togheter... should be intressting.. http://www.automotorsport.se/artikla...ensam-sportbil link is in swedish but you get the point.. google search: 4c alfa romeo still a concept.. but you get the point..

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go2brz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited in DGM Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 165 Thanks: 52 Thanked 73 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mazda and Alfa Romeo have joined together to build a shared platform for the new 2015 Alfa Spider and a brand new MX-5 Miata. Only the platform will be shared. The bodies of both cars will be different and designed by each company respectively. The Alfa Romeo will have it's own engine and suspension as well.

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