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Old 12-06-2023, 08:55 PM   #659
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If it's any consolation, where I currently live, the drivers are clueless NPCs who will run you over because they don't know they are supposed to stop at a stop sign. Regardless of whether they are on a phone or not. They are that stupid.
I don't think there the percentage of shitty or reckless drivers has increased over the past several decades. I just cringe at the vehicular arms race. Can't deny that size sells.
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The quote that he highlighted was originally addressing a comment vbradley made (see below), so if Alex87f changed the context, it was vague, but I addressed both points nevertheless.

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I was referring to mass, but also to the relative hardness of a truck made of 1.8mm thick stainless steel. I'm not sure "pedestrian safety" and "crumple zone" were commonly used terms in the CT development team.
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Old 12-07-2023, 12:43 PM   #661
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Man, and I thought the idiots by me not knowing how a rotary works were bad.
To be fair, few people really understand a traditional four-stroke.
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To be fair, few people really understand a traditional four-stroke.
I meant the traffic circle.
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I meant the traffic circle.
In the US, even fewer people understand traffic circles than four strokes.
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Crumple zones are over rated anyway.



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Crumple zones are over rated anyway.



Seems like the crumple zones are good. The wheels are meant to twist out of the way, the motor drops, so to save the battery. I wouldn't expect the rear wheels to turn too or the rear light bar to pop off, but oh well.

It might have thick steel like "how they use to make cars", but it is a good thing they don't make em like they use to. But realistically, forces will likely transfer to the driver more, for sure.

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I was referring to mass, but also to the relative hardness of a truck made of 1.8mm thick stainless steel. I'm not sure "pedestrian safety" and "crumple zone" were commonly used terms in the CT development team.
It's an apocalypse zombie bull dozer. You didn't know?
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It's an apocalypse zombie bull dozer. You didn't know?
As Musk says, "if you're in an accident with another car, you will win"...

On this, I'm out to trade my bicycle & trailer for an F-650. Or might just get a semi and be done with it. Be right back.
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It might have thick steel like "how they use to make cars", but it is a good thing they don't make em like they use to. But realistically, forces will likely transfer to the driver more, for sure.
All I can think watching this is what a waste of a beautiful prime condition BelAir.
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Seems like the crumple zones are good. The wheels are meant to twist out of the way, the motor drops, so to save the battery. I wouldn't expect the rear wheels to turn too or the rear light bar to pop off, but oh well.

It might have thick steel like "how they use to make cars", but it is a good thing they don't make em like they use to. But realistically, forces will likely transfer to the driver more, for sure.


I wouldn't have expected anything else. Everything is great in a vacuum but when a comparison is done the harshness is obvious.



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All I can think watching this is what a waste of a beautiful prime condition BelAir.
Judging by the cloud of rust that appears when it's hit, it was closer to rotisserie restoration material than prime condition.

I recall reading they'd done that crash test without an engine in the Bel Air, not sure why. Then again all it would have meant is more damage on the dummy legs!

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Judging by the cloud of rust that appears when it's hit, it was closer to rotisserie restoration material than prime condition.

I recall reading they'd done that crash test without an engine in the Bel Air, not sure why. Then again all it would have meant is more damage on the dummy legs!
Maybe, I guess I saw the rust dust as paint. Doing the test without an engine pretty much invalidates it as well it would seem to me.
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