Engine Blew!

[ML]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Yeah, but it isn't a complete kit, and I don't know how I feel about their oil pan. I'm not too concerned about the CD009 swap right now. Down the road, it may be necessary, but I don't know if the BMW transmission is worse or better, so it isn't at the top of my list right now.

Kpower guys said you can buy as much or as little of their swap kit, and you can also do the same with TF works. So buy all the engine stuff from kpower and then all the transmission stuff from TF works. they even have ZF adapters and mounts.

[Petah78]

On the Kpower site, they mentioned that the management will be done via a Haltech unit. Do you know if that is still the case? Why retain the FA throttle body? What i am most interested about is if this swap kit can make the car feel like it left factory. Like AC, PS, TC, cluster, HVAC all work.

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

KPower revealed in an email that the kit will utilize the stock FA20 throttle body. I was asking if I should hang onto any stock parts and that is what they said to save.

I asked about the oil pan too. The RSX Type S oil pump is often swapped, and it seems like their oil pan will utilize that pump. An oil return bung could be welded to it, but it sounds like that won’t be an option with the kit. In fact, they said their is an oil return location up higher on the block or something, so it isn’t necessary to put it in the pan.

I asked about the turbo manifold. They said they are developing one specific for the 86 chassis, but they believe the manifold for the Miata swap will work, depending on the size of the turbo probably.

I was told they are considering the BMW transmission for a boosted upgrade instead of the CD009. Also, they are currently finalizing the shifter relocation, so that seems to be one of the final pieces before testing and release.

Anyone else have any questions, let me know, and I’ll ask, since I have a continuing correspondence.

[ML]

Originally Posted by Petah78

I know on them Kpower site they mentioned that the management will be done via a Haltech unit. Do you know if that is still the case? Why retain the FA throttle body? What i am most interested about is if this swap kit can make the car feel like it left factory. Like AC, PS, TC, cluster, HVAC all work.

yes haltech 1500. They probably want to keep the throttle body to help keep cost and complexity down and retain the factory drive-by-wire

[Petah78]

Thanks. I was hoping they are working on a solution that will make K24 work with factory ECU which was done by another FT86 member (solidsnake?). Keeping all factory options functional is very important to me and I am thinking that this can be achieved the easiest by retaining the factory ECU. Though i can be totally off base.

Originally Posted by ML

yes haltech 1500. They probably want to keep the throttle body to help keep cost and complexity down and retain the factory drive-by-wire

[ML]

Originally Posted by Petah78

Thanks. I was hoping they are working on a solution that will make K24 work with factory ECU which was done by another FT86 member (solidsnake?). Keeping all factory options functional is very important to me and I am thinking that this can be achieved the easiest by retaining the factory ECU. Though i can be totally off base.

The Haltech can do absolutely everything the factory ECU can do (and much much more). They have a custom made harness that is included that connects everything together. Not sure what features you would be worried about losing?

[Petah78]

Again, thanks for the info. You might be right as i am a noob in terms of management systems. Fully functional cluster, TC and ODB port are the main things.

Originally Posted by ML

The Haltech can do absolutely everything the factory ECU can do (and much much more). They have a custom made harness that is included that connects everything together. Not sure what features you would be worried about losing?

[ML]

Originally Posted by Petah78

Again, thanks for the info. You might be right as i am a noob in terms of management systems. Fully functional cluster, TC and ODB port are the main things.

yeah, all that will still work.

[Petah78]

Another thing is that since they are moving the transmission 4 inches rearwards, what does this mean for the shifter location inside the car? Or will the adapter reposition it back to the factory location?

Originally Posted by ML

yeah, all that will still work.

[ML]

Originally Posted by Petah78

Another thing is that since they are moving the transmission 4 inches rearwards, what does this mean for the shifter location inside the car? Or will the adapter reposition it back to the factory location?

From the Facebook page:

"I don’t have a pic handy, but the shifter location, angle, and throw is identical to stock. We built a new shifter carrier and selector rod to make it all work"

[DarkSideFRS]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I don't mind the FA20. It was good while it lasted, and it has some character that I enjoyed, but Toyota could have teamed up with Honda on this one, and knocked it out of the park.

I have been saying this since day one and all the fanboys called me crazy.. the fa20 is the car's weakest point

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by ML

Kpower guys said you can buy as much or as little of their swap kit, and you can also do the same with TF works. So buy all the engine stuff from kpower and then all the transmission stuff from TF works. they even have ZF adapters and mounts.

I was told this as well, and that could mean not using their intake manifold and using a Skunk2 manifold or something or using the wiring harness and Haltech, but not the transmission stuff, but the problem I could see happening is just making sure to bot mix and match the wrong parts like will both oil pans clear with the opposite company’s engine mounts, or would a header from one work with the other’s engine and transmission mounts?

[ninjan00dles]

Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS

I have been saying this since day one and all the fanboys called me crazy.. the fa20 is the car's weakest point

It’s easily one of the worst “performance” engines I’ve experienced

[DarkSideFRS]

Originally Posted by ninjan00dles

It’s easily one of the worst “performance” engines I’ve experienced

Shhhh.... The fanboys will hear u

[Irace86.2.0]

In another email reply I learned that Haltech will replace the factor ECU completely, and it will control the key fob and start button, so that means I can sell my old ECU, which may or may not work with someone else's car, but if it does then they would get access to the CARB tune and the other DT tunes I have, even if those tunes would be specific to my engine.

They also said that either the USDM or JDM K24A2 would work the same, just in case anyone wonders.

I got the rest of the components off the car including the headers, supercharger radiator, and other components that will be sold or is part of my kit. I tried to get the driveshaft off, but the diff/shaft bolts are being a real bitch. I sprayed it with penetrating lubricant. Hopefully that works. Getting all the bolts off of the engine isn't easy like there are literally a million bolts on the timing chain cover, and I still feel like it doesn't want to come off. Same with the oil pan; that glue is legit. All accessories are off, and I removed the valve covers, so it is just the long block that needs disassembly, but I bet it will take some time. Surprisingly, the initial glance at the cams seemed to show little sign of wear and damage. They are toast because of oil contamination, but still looking somewhat normal.

I have to go to hazmat dump tomorrow to get rid of the coolant/oil mix, and then I plan to remove the transmission for easier access the the block. I might get an engine hoist and engine stand tomorrow too.