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gcranston · 06-30-2022, 06:13 PM

Reinstalled the old module. I am successfully back to square one. Which is good because I have an event this weekend. Pedal dance still not working, but 5sec hold works, so we'll be ok.

Again, any help or suggestions would be great.

slockin · 07-02-2022, 04:34 PM

Do you have an ODBII reader that can pull / reset codes from the ABS module?

IIRC, when I upgraded mine ABS module there were codes already in the ABS module and resetting them did the trick. See comment 131.

amirnew · 01-03-2023, 03:52 PM

Hi,
I have a sept 2012 built car, used *60 pn unit, repined the vsc connector from 17 and 32 to 8 and 9. And i have cel plus abs and steering wheel error, the fault code is speed sensor and i have no odometer now and car reva to 4k.
Can someone help? The unit ia from 2019 \2020 manual brz.
Pls.help.

amirnew · 01-03-2023, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gcranston

Reinstalled the old module. I am successfully back to square one. Which is good because I have an event this weekend. Pedal dance still not working, but 5sec hold works, so we'll be ok.

Again, any help or suggestions would be great.

I have the same issue on my car. Torque app scan tells me i have speed sensor issue in "historic"faults, but when clearing the fault it comes back... So not so historic...
Don't understand what os the issue. The unit is from 2019 brz but it acts like i didnt repin the connector.
The white speed sensor pin is from the vsc to the ecu?
As an input to the ecu?

RedReplicant · 03-14-2023, 01:06 PM

Anyone tried a gen 2 unit on a gen 1 yet?

bhmax · 03-14-2023, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReplicant

Anyone tried a gen 2 unit on a gen 1 yet?

Have there been supposed improvements? I haven’t really kept up with too much gen 2 stuff. Still very happy with 2017+ module on my 2013.

RedReplicant · 03-14-2023, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bhmax

Have there been supposed improvements? I haven’t really kept up with too much gen 2 stuff. Still very happy with 2017+ module on my 2013.

No idea, but it'd be nice if the ABS was less intrusive since it'd have been calibrated for a PS4 rather than a Prius tire.

dragoontwo · 03-14-2023, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReplicant

No idea, but it'd be nice if the ABS was less intrusive since it'd have been calibrated for a PS4 rather than a Prius tire.

Hate to break it to you, but the second gen still comes with "Prius tires" and the same unit is used on the premium and limited.

RedReplicant · 03-14-2023, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo

Hate to break it to you, but the second gen still comes with "Prius tires" and the same unit is used on the premium and limited.

That sucks. Same software calibration id?

dragoontwo · 03-14-2023, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReplicant

That sucks. Same software calibration id?

Probably. I'm not sure if the ABS CAL ID is listed on the outside, or pulled by interfacing to the car. The Subaru parts diagram lists the same ABS unit for both trims.

RedReplicant · 03-14-2023, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo

Probably. I'm not sure if the ABS CAL ID is listed on the outside, or pulled by interfacing to the car. The Subaru parts diagram lists the same ABS unit for both trims.

Alright, I have a working techstream setup so I'll pull calibration ids from both trims at the next track event in two weeks.

I was just hoping we'd be in a similar situation to MK60/MK60E1/MK60E5/MK100 where you can code the unit to different parameters that intervene less.

Ohio Enthusiast · 03-14-2023, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bhmax

Have there been supposed improvements?

When I test drove a '22 BRZ I found the stability and traction controls to be less intrusive when fully on - 1st to 2nd high RPM upshift chirped the wheels (would bog down my '18) and it allowed a nice amount of rear slip coming out of a stop sign and turning left (would feel brake intervention in my '18). I only drove with stability and traction fully on, so not sure if there is a different tuning in Track Mode.

But if your goal is just to have a "fully off" mode the 17+ is good enough, AFAIU.

gpvecchi · 03-14-2023, 04:41 PM

I have the STi unit, and it's calibrated different than my previous 2019 version. ABS is less intrusive, ESP the same. My opinion it's calibrated for 18 inches rims, so I think the GR86 has a similar behaviour.
I'm tempted to try the JDM G type (same as the JDM 86 GR). this looks more track oriented than the others.

RedReplicant · 03-14-2023, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

I have the STi unit, and it's calibrated different than my previous 2019 version. ABS is less intrusive, ESP the same. My opinion it's calibrated for 18 inches rims, so I think the GR86 has a similar behaviour.
I'm tempted to try the JDM G type (same as the JDM 86 GR). this looks more track oriented than the others.

Do you know the CAL ID for it? I wonder if this is something we can change. I'm going to poke around in my car later with Techstream.

I am assuming Brembo calibration is less intrusive too.

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gcranston Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited DGM Location: Boston MA Posts: 390 Thanks: 29 Thanked 54 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Reinstalled the old module. I am successfully back to square one. Which is good because I have an event this weekend. Pedal dance still not working, but 5sec hold works, so we'll be ok. Again, any help or suggestions would be great.

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amirnew Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Drives: 2013 BRZ sprintex SC Location: Haifa Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hi, I have a sept 2012 built car, used *60 pn unit, repined the vsc connector from 17 and 32 to 8 and 9. And i have cel plus abs and steering wheel error, the fault code is speed sensor and i have no odometer now and car reva to 4k. Can someone help? The unit ia from 2019 \2020 manual brz. Pls.help.

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