Automatic vs Manual - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Rabble · 12-05-2011, 10:19 AM

Take a look at this video

it is an 86 with the Automatic taking a quick lap.

Now, I know that some (most) people on this website would argue that a manual is the only way to get this car. I've heard the argument that you aren't really driving unless you drive a manual. But this video shows an extremely competent automatic, with shifts better than most of us could pull off on a consistent basis.

I'm getting the auto because I don't want to deal with it every day. Maybe it would be different if I was going to track it.

What gearbox do you want, and why?

iff2mastamatt · 12-05-2011, 10:23 AM

I almost forgot there was a backseat

. WOW that auto sounds great, and it seems to shift quickly too! Thanks for sharing, but I feel that this will end up being overwhelmingly in favor of manuals. +1 for autos.

SL · 12-05-2011, 10:42 AM

i've ordered mine in auto.. for 2 reasons.. one being the flappy paddles.. and the second being i'll be letting the mrs drive the GT86 (ie. drive me back from the pub)

SteelReign · 12-05-2011, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL

i've ordered mine in auto.. for 2 reasons.. one being the flappy paddles.. and the second being i'll be letting the mrs drive the GT86 (ie. drive me back from the pub)

Not a bad reason, although I'll have her learn manual on the 86 (she's eager to learn). Manual for me!

OlegOdin · 12-05-2011, 10:52 AM

Auto for 3 reasons.
#1. So I can play with the paddles.
#2. So the wife can drive it.
#3. When I'm feeling lazy I don't have to shift it.

m_life · 12-05-2011, 10:53 AM

Another vote for a manual here.

SL · 12-05-2011, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelReign

Not a bad reason, although I'll have her learn manual on the 86 (she's eager to learn). Manual for me!

ah i keep forgetting this is predominantly a US forum .. yeah she drives manuals no worries (here in the UK).. its just she's not exactly mechanically sympathetic!

OlegOdin · 12-05-2011, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL

ah i keep forgetting this is predominantly a US forum .. yeah she drives manuals no worries (here in the UK).. its just she's not exactly mechanically sympathetic!

Same but I am in the US. My wife can drive a manual, doesn't mean she should

tripjammer · 12-05-2011, 11:04 AM

Manual transmissions are more fun!

speed-wiz · 12-05-2011, 11:08 AM

No torque converters for mine!

Buggy51 · 12-05-2011, 11:09 AM

>_> At first I thought this topic was going to be filled with landmines lol.

Oh well, inclining towards auto as well.

spin9k · 12-05-2011, 11:14 AM

Shifting is fun 'most' of the time, but some autos now have faster times through the gears. We'll need to wait for a thorough test result and tactile opinion 1st if the auto is anything to consider except based on need.

Soravia · 12-05-2011, 11:15 AM

There's manual (hydraulic actuated clutch), there's Automatic (hydraulic torque converter), Dual Clutch/SMG (Machine actuated clutch), and there's CVT (belt driven drone).

Guess which one of those lets you directly control torque applied to the wheel. (hint: the simplest one)

So, that's why manual transmissions are still around. It's not the shift speed, it's not the smoothness, it's all about applying the engine's power to the ground.

tranzformer · 12-05-2011, 11:18 AM

this has been talked about at length. If you want to share the video add it to one of they existing threads or in the engine/transmission forum.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=Manual

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ight=automatic

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ight=automatic

View Poll Results: Gearbox?
Manual baby, the only way to play.	61	70.11%
Automatic, quick shifts for the discerning gentleman.	26	29.89%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

12-05-2011, 11:08 AM	#10
speed-wiz Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: MR2 Location: Atlanta Posts: 143 Thanks: 11 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No torque converters for mine! __________________ Speed-Wiz

12-05-2011, 11:15 AM	#13
Soravia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Miata Club Location: Alabama Posts: 120 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There's manual (hydraulic actuated clutch), there's Automatic (hydraulic torque converter), Dual Clutch/SMG (Machine actuated clutch), and there's CVT (belt driven drone). Guess which one of those lets you directly control torque applied to the wheel. (hint: the simplest one) So, that's why manual transmissions are still around. It's not the shift speed, it's not the smoothness, it's all about applying the engine's power to the ground. __________________ 3x 240SX, RX-8 Sport, Sentra Spec V, A4 1.8T Quattro, Miata NB2, Miata NC 2.5

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12-05-2011, 10:19 AM	#1
Rabble Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Asphalt FR-S Location: USA Posts: 457 Thanks: 6 Thanked 110 Times in 51 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Automatic vs Manual Take a look at this video it is an 86 with the Automatic taking a quick lap. Now, I know that some (most) people on this website would argue that a manual is the only way to get this car. I've heard the argument that you aren't really driving unless you drive a manual. But this video shows an extremely competent automatic, with shifts better than most of us could pull off on a consistent basis. I'm getting the auto because I don't want to deal with it every day. Maybe it would be different if I was going to track it. What gearbox do you want, and why?

12-05-2011, 10:42 AM	#3
SL Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: S2000 Location: uk Posts: 72 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i've ordered mine in auto.. for 2 reasons.. one being the flappy paddles.. and the second being i'll be letting the mrs drive the GT86 (ie. drive me back from the pub)

12-05-2011, 10:52 AM	#5
OlegOdin Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Ford Location: US Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Auto for 3 reasons. #1. So I can play with the paddles. #2. So the wife can drive it. #3. When I'm feeling lazy I don't have to shift it.

12-05-2011, 10:53 AM	#6
m_life Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota Supra SZ Location: United Kingdom Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Another vote for a manual here.

12-05-2011, 11:09 AM	#11
Buggy51 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: Put Put Location: CA Posts: 607 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	>_> At first I thought this topic was going to be filled with landmines lol. Oh well, inclining towards auto as well.

12-05-2011, 11:14 AM	#12
spin9k Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: RX-8 Location: NH Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Shifting is fun 'most' of the time, but some autos now have faster times through the gears. We'll need to wait for a thorough test result and tactile opinion 1st if the auto is anything to consider except based on need.

12-05-2011, 11:18 AM	#14
tranzformer Delights in pure handling Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Zoom Zoom Location: KS Posts: 4,854 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	this has been talked about at length. If you want to share the video add it to one of they existing threads or in the engine/transmission forum. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=Manual http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ight=automatic http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ight=automatic

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