Toyota is Replacing My Transmission - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

orangeblue · 06-17-2013, 09:58 PM

Since car was new, 1st to 2nd shift was always balky. At higher RPM, shift into 4th, either from 3rd or 5th, would result in a really disturbing metallic crunching noise. Could be cruising at 50mph in 5th gear, clutch to the floor and 4th would crunch.

Tried replacing fluid with Redline, no improvement. Car has between 7500 and 8000 miles.

Anyway, my Dad just got a new FR-S, and the shifting is perfectly smooth. I took it into my local dealership on Saturday and told them about the issue. Basically it started as a "this must just be how the transmission is," and changed to "something is totally FUBAR" after comparing to the new car.

The dealership put in a call to corporate Toyota, who asked them to drive my car back-to-back with another FR-S to check for a difference. Service department called me back today to say they were told to replace the transmission and that it had been ordered. Should have the car back later this week.

SoCal_86 · 06-18-2013, 02:03 AM

I too have this issue. I should be calling my dealer soon!

Yruyur · 06-18-2013, 02:08 AM

Had mine replaced about 8 months ago for the same issue. If anything it helped me with my lemon law case.

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PANDA86 · 06-18-2013, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yruyur

Had mine replaced about 8 months ago for the same issue. If anything it helped me with my lemon law case.

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what was the issue or cause for malfunction?

whtchocla7e · 06-18-2013, 07:58 AM

Going to the dealership today. I'm tired of the crunchy gears. Thanks for the heads up.

LeeMaster · 06-18-2013, 08:59 AM

For all the people who got their transmission replaced under warranty, what is the last 4 of your VIN#?

#87 · 06-18-2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeMaster

For all the people who got their transmission replaced under warranty, what is the last 4 of your VIN#?

I have a less than 1000 VIN and trans no problems so far at 15k street miles, not exactly granny shifted

FRiSson · 06-18-2013, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeblue

Since car was new, 1st to 2nd shift was always balky. At higher RPM, shift into 4th, either from 3rd or 5th, would result in a really disturbing metallic crunching noise. Could be cruising at 50mph in 5th gear, clutch to the floor and 4th would crunch.

Tried replacing fluid with Redline, no improvement. Car has between 7500 and 8000 miles.

Anyway, my Dad just got a new FR-S, and the shifting is perfectly smooth. I took it into my local dealership on Saturday and told them about the issue. Basically it started as a "this must just be how the transmission is," and changed to "something is totally FUBAR" after comparing to the new car.

The dealership put in a call to corporate Toyota, who asked them to drive my car back-to-back with another FR-S to check for a difference. Service department called me back today to say they were told to replace the transmission and that it had been ordered. Should have the car back later this week.

How is the "metallic crunching noise" different from the "balky" quality of the 1-2 shift? Is there a sound associated with it, or just a feel?

waterbison777 · 06-18-2013, 11:19 AM

I had my transmission replaced by longo toyota a few months ago as well. It was the same issue as the OP; metallic crunching sounds shifting into 4th from either 3rd or 5th gear. The crunching was definitely more prevalent when shifting above 6k rpm, but you could feel it at lower rpms as well. They said that my transmission had a deformed synchro ring and replaced the entire tranny free of charge.

LeeMaster · 06-18-2013, 11:40 AM

Hmmm... time to go test drive an FRS and make comparisons....

Yruyur · 06-18-2013, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PANDA86

what was the issue or cause for malfunction?

Don't know. 4th was grinding out loud. They were prepared to charge me for a new transmission if they found my clutch was burnt. It was not. Toyota corporate had them replace clutch flywheel and tranny.

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radroach · 06-18-2013, 11:47 AM

Should I have the syncro rings checked before 30,000 miles?

Are the syncro rings replaceable instead of the whole transmission?

orangeblue · 06-18-2013, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRiSson

How is the "metallic crunching noise" different from the "balky" quality of the 1-2 shift? Is there a sound associated with it, or just a feel?

Balky just meant that the shift had resistance to it; it wouldn't smoothly engage 2nd gear. The crunching noise in 4th gear was definitely a loud metal-on-metal noise. 2nd didn't have a noise.

OrbitalEllipses · 06-18-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Yruyur

They were prepared to charge me for a new transmission if they found my clutch was burnt.

Sooo those of us that may have done a burnout or two won't get transmission warranty work? Cute.

06-17-2013, 09:58 PM	#1
orangeblue Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Whiteout Location: Florida Posts: 64 Thanks: 4 Thanked 27 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota is Replacing My Transmission Since car was new, 1st to 2nd shift was always balky. At higher RPM, shift into 4th, either from 3rd or 5th, would result in a really disturbing metallic crunching noise. Could be cruising at 50mph in 5th gear, clutch to the floor and 4th would crunch. Tried replacing fluid with Redline, no improvement. Car has between 7500 and 8000 miles. Anyway, my Dad just got a new FR-S, and the shifting is perfectly smooth. I took it into my local dealership on Saturday and told them about the issue. Basically it started as a "this must just be how the transmission is," and changed to "something is totally FUBAR" after comparing to the new car. The dealership put in a call to corporate Toyota, who asked them to drive my car back-to-back with another FR-S to check for a difference. Service department called me back today to say they were told to replace the transmission and that it had been ordered. Should have the car back later this week.

06-18-2013, 02:08 AM	#3
Yruyur Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion fr-s asphalt M/T Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,192 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 1,631 Times in 941 Posts Mentioned: 96 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Had mine replaced about 8 months ago for the same issue. If anything it helped me with my lemon law case. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 __________________

06-18-2013, 07:58 AM	#5
whtchocla7e Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Hot Lava Location: CT Posts: 424 Thanks: 30 Thanked 222 Times in 81 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Going to the dealership today. I'm tired of the crunchy gears. Thanks for the heads up. __________________ Live to drive another day

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LeeMaster Red wine Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ(R.I.P) Location: Denied Posts: 1,176 Thanks: 1,268 Thanked 342 Times in 240 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For all the people who got their transmission replaced under warranty, what is the last 4 of your VIN#? __________________

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LeeMaster Red wine Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ(R.I.P) Location: Denied Posts: 1,176 Thanks: 1,268 Thanked 342 Times in 240 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hmmm... time to go test drive an FRS and make comparisons.... __________________

06-18-2013, 11:19 AM	#9
waterbison777 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: DB, CA Posts: 52 Thanks: 76 Thanked 30 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I had my transmission replaced by longo toyota a few months ago as well. It was the same issue as the OP; metallic crunching sounds shifting into 4th from either 3rd or 5th gear. The crunching was definitely more prevalent when shifting above 6k rpm, but you could feel it at lower rpms as well. They said that my transmission had a deformed synchro ring and replaced the entire tranny free of charge.

06-18-2013, 11:47 AM	#12
radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Should I have the syncro rings checked before 30,000 miles? Are the syncro rings replaceable instead of the whole transmission? Last edited by radroach; 06-18-2013 at 12:23 PM.

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