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Old 08-17-2020, 07:36 AM   #15
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The Fumoto Valve is also very useful and makes the oil change on these cars hassle free.
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Personally, I'd call the dealer and tell them that according to the dipstick, they overfilled your oil. Now, either they drain/fill to correct level or tell you it's ok, and ask them to email you that reply so they are responsible.

Using 0W20 oil, overfilling will allow the crank to dip into the oil pan as the car moves, possibly causing the oil to foam up. Not sure otherwise what is the detriment but that is added resistance inside the engine.
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Using 0W20 oil, overfilling will allow the crank to dip into the oil pan as the car moves, possibly causing the oil to foam up. Not sure otherwise what is the detriment but that is added resistance inside the engine.
You would have to go quarts over for the level to hit the crank in this engine. Just FYI.
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Another thing to keep in mind is 0w20 is so thin, it’s easy for it to move up and down on the dipstick. So I’ve found it’s difficult to get an accurate read. If it’s a little above the highest fill mark I wouldn’t worry. Mine pretty much always reads that way. I usually check after I’ve been driving for a while, turn off the car, and wait 5-10 minutes before checking the level.
I also don’t lose very much oil at all between changes, which is surprising with such thin oil.
I use either the Toyota/Subaru 0w20 or Mobil1


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I take that back OP, your first picture makes it look like it’s WAY overfilled. That wouldn’t be a good thing, and I would drain some oil to be safe. And check the oil level again before you drive. Typically my car reads just slightly above the highest fill mark, or right at the line.


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I take that back OP, your first picture makes it look like it’s WAY overfilled. That wouldn’t be a good thing, and I would drain some oil to be safe. And check the oil level again before you drive. Typically my car reads just slightly above the highest fill mark, or right at the line.
I'm going to change the oil myself, just to be sure and because I recently bought the car. Start with a clean slate.

I read through the oil threads in this forum and man, lots of differing opinions on oil brands, lol. I'll try "Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-20" from Walmart 5.8qts.

Reading various discussion here, seems like most people recommend using a Subaru oil filter rather than aftermarket. But there might be two kinds, blue and black (latter supposedly from Japan).

Should I just go to a Subaru dealer and have them give me the correct filter, or is that too pricey? Where do people usually get their filter? I saw this on Amazon for the black version:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1
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Where do people usually get their filter? I saw this on Amazon for the black version:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1
They are listed on eBay for less.
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I'm going to change the oil myself, just to be sure and because I recently bought the car. Start with a clean slate.

I read through the oil threads in this forum and man, lots of differing opinions on oil brands, lol. I'll try "Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-20" from Walmart 5.8qts.

Reading various discussion here, seems like most people recommend using a Subaru oil filter rather than aftermarket. But there might be two kinds, blue and black (latter supposedly from Japan).

Should I just go to a Subaru dealer and have them give me the correct filter, or is that too pricey? Where do people usually get their filter? I saw this on Amazon for the black version:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1
I got a three pack with washers for the drain plug.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Subaru-...53.m2749.l2649
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I'm going to change the oil myself, just to be sure and because I recently bought the car. Start with a clean slate.

I read through the oil threads in this forum and man, lots of differing opinions on oil brands, lol. I'll try "Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-20" from Walmart 5.8qts.

Reading various discussion here, seems like most people recommend using a Subaru oil filter rather than aftermarket. But there might be two kinds, blue and black (latter supposedly from Japan).

Should I just go to a Subaru dealer and have them give me the correct filter, or is that too pricey? Where do people usually get their filter? I saw this on Amazon for the black version:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1
opinion and preference. it's all just opinion and preference.

i believe every single oil that is sold in america must have a label about how it conforms with the SAE and API standards. from the bargain-bin 'walmart' oil, to the premium products like royal purple.

scroll down to 'motor oil designations', and API/ILSAC "starburst":
https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/educa...ended-use.html

by those standards, the bargain walmart oil offers no difference in performance than the most premium of oils. any choice in oil over the store-brand stuff is purely for your personal comfort.

and filters aren't all that different either. while more premium filters do in fact offer some other filtering options, as someone once told me, "even chicken wire can filter 0.1 micron particles if you test it right".

change it at the required intervals, live your life. anything beyond that is pedantic for the interest of being pedantic.

i personally use castrol synthetic, and purolator boss filters, but it's solely to make myself feel better, and only deny that to myself.
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Old 08-26-2020, 02:33 PM   #24
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opinion and preference. it's all just opinion and preference.

i believe every single oil that is sold in america must have a label about how it conforms with the SAE and API standards. from the bargain-bin 'walmart' oil, to the premium products like royal purple.

scroll down to 'motor oil designations', and API/ILSAC "starburst":
https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/educa...ended-use.html

by those standards, the bargain walmart oil offers no difference in performance than the most premium of oils. any choice in oil over the store-brand stuff is purely for your personal comfort.

and filters aren't all that different either. while more premium filters do in fact offer some other filtering options, as someone once told me, "even chicken wire can filter 0.1 micron particles if you test it right".

change it at the required intervals, live your life. anything beyond that is pedantic for the interest of being pedantic.

i personally use castrol synthetic, and purolator boss filters, but it's solely to make myself feel better, and only deny that to myself.
I ended up ordering one of the black genuine Subaru oil filters online - and it arrived today dented. Not badly dented, but two dents on the top nevertheless. I don't particularly feel like putting a dented oil filter on my BRZ.

So now I've got to return that dented filter, and I don't want to wait around for another one in the mail. I can go to Subaru dealer and buy a genuine oil filter (probably the blue version people don't seem to recommend). Or go 3rd party filter.

I've read that genuine Subaru filter matters - and that it does not. What a pain just to change some oil. I never cared much about oil or filter with my older 4x4s. Just used whatever.
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I ended up ordering one of the black genuine Subaru oil filters online - and it arrived today dented. Not badly dented, but two dents on the top nevertheless. I don't particularly feel like putting a dented oil filter on my BRZ.

So now I've got to return that dented filter, and I don't want to wait around for another one in the mail. I can go to Subaru dealer and buy a genuine oil filter (probably the blue version people don't seem to recommend). Or go 3rd party filter.

I've read that genuine Subaru filter matters - and that it does not. What a pain just to change some oil. I never cared much about oil or filter with my older 4x4s. Just used whatever.


My local dealer stocks the black filter for the BRZ.
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My local dealer stocks the black filter for the BRZ.
Thanks for the tip. Called my local dealer and yep they had the black filters - so I picked up two. Also got the little drain plug crush ring. I had been planning to re-use the existing ring. This is first time I recall any of my vehicles having a drain plug crush ring.
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Regarding the oil level, my car has been serviced at Toyota Brussels and at the most knowledgeable (and only!) 86 specialist in France, and both of them always fill the car to about the level shown by OP.

I've come to believe this is more or less standard procedure for oil changes on these cars.
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If you really care, you can buy a cheep pump driven by a drill that has a 1/4 in line for the inlet. You put it down the dip stick hole. It is sold at most auto parts stores for draining inboard boat motors. I think under $20. They are kind of a one time pump. The rubber vanes seem to fail no matter what i flush with.
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