Any good reason to stick with 1st Gen?

[new2subaru]

Plentiful parts

[Ultramaroon]

can drive with the windows down

[Ernest72]

Originally Posted by WazzuGrad

No good reason, second gen is better then first gen on all fronts. I switched from 13 FRS(125k miles) to 23 GR86, surprising how much the creature comfort of backup camera and push start matters lol or maybe i'm just getting old.

14% hp increase
22% tq incrase
weight relatively same
gas mileage slightly worse, but who buys these cars for the MPG lol

I agree, money no concern Gen 2 unless you prefer the look of the Gen1 than mod it out with all that money.

[WNDSRFR]

Originally Posted by WazzuGrad

No good reason, second gen is better then first gen on all fronts. I switched from 13 FRS(125k miles) to 23 GR86, surprising how much the creature comfort of backup camera and push start matters lol or maybe i'm just getting old.

14% hp increase
22% tq incrase
weight relatively same
gas mileage slightly worse, but who buys these cars for the MPG lol

Don't need a backup camera, I have a rear view mirror. Don't need push to start, I can turn the key.
I have a simple $1500 mod that increases HP by 46 and increases torque by 58.
Weight is exactly the same as is MPG.
And with my tasteful cosmetic mods it looks better too.
And what's the price difference again?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

can drive with the windows down

can't do that on the 2nd gen?

[EAGLE5]

Are there even twisty roads in Oklahoma?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by soundman98

can't do that on the 2nd gen?

Apparently not

[ZDan]

Haven’t noticed undue buffeting in my 23 with windows down at the track, up to 123mph, but that’s with a helmet on…

[Ultramaroon]

I was mostly kidding but I do wonder why that thread caught so much traction.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by WildCard600

What is the economic environment like there? I can go back home to northern appalachia and find a decent house for under 200k as well. You can't buy a job to save your life but the homes are cheap.

This is the Atlanta Suburbs. No issue with economic development.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by EAGLE5

Are there even twisty roads in Oklahoma?

The NE part of the state, not so much here in the in the middle of the state.

And the NE part of the state leads you in to SW Missouri and NW Arkansas. Where there are even more great roads.

From my sport bike days, I know most of the good roads in the entire area.

When I was still in Tulsa, we commonly left Tulsa around sunrise, road to Eureka Springs, had lunch and road back in the same day.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Haven’t noticed undue buffeting in my 23 with windows down at the track, up to 123mph, but that’s with a helmet on…

OK just got back from Watkins Glen, and *damn*, the air buffeting/noise is very REAL with the 2nd gen. Shoulda worn earplugs... Helmholtz resonance with both windows all the way down, over the entire length of the straightaway from top of the esses to the chicane, annoying as all f.
FWIW the new '23 saw 130mph at end of straight, old car only 120mph! I'll take the wind noise if it comes with +10mph at the Glen!

[Blighty]

Originally Posted by ZDan

OK just got back from Watkins Glen, and *damn*, the air buffeting/noise is very REAL with the 2nd gen. Shoulda worn earplugs... Helmholtz resonance with both windows all the way down, over the entire length of the straightaway from top of the esses to the chicane, annoying as all f.
FWIW the new '23 saw 130mph at end of straight, old car only 120mph! I'll take the wind noise if it comes with +10mph at the Glen!

There are a few solutions is think.
https://lgcracing.com/products/verus...rz-toyota-gr86

Honestly just probably make this type of thing yourself, stick it on with 3m and away you go - no need for this to be carbon fibre.

[dragoontwo]

They have a cheaper plastic version, too.