Models without LSD

[diss7]

New Zealand spec RC doesn't have LSD either.

[Jyn]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

I wish it had manual windows, but that would be a no-go without the frame. I don't know about your car, but there is no fancy shit on mine! ETA: People are slacking. Wont be long until making your Monogram look like the RC will be the cool-kid thing.

lol, that would be an interesting trend. Don't know if you'd want the stance kids running to that - they always find "innovative" ways to rice things up

[J_kennington]

Originally Posted by Jyn

lol, that would be an interesting trend. Don't know if you'd want the stance kids running to that - they always find "innovative" ways to rice things up

I would rather them do that..than "stance" a car . At least one is still considered safe.

[Jyn]

Originally Posted by J_kennington

I would rather them do that..than "stance" a car . At least one is still considered safe.

You underestimate the magnitude of stupidity.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/toyota/...-ar124444.html

haha did they really say that? nobody ever has opted out of a limited slip diff for the sake of weight. cost? sure. performance? rarely. weight? i dont understand it.

[asnoir]

The 86 RC car for japan don't have LSD because it's a car for tunning it. Many want a car to tune it entirely. The RC has got nothing! No radio , lsd, ac, ... iron rims... They take to it 2 way LSD, new brakes... If only such a car could reach europa!

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Books

All the models have a Torsen LSD!

Originally Posted by Harvey

That's what I thought.... so why do the manuals have sections dedicated to non LSD differentials?

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

The JDM RC versions don't have a limited slip differential.

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/toyota/...-ar124444.html

Originally Posted by tjf

The auto GT version currently has no LSD but I believe that the 2015 models will have it included.

Originally Posted by Khorne

The 2013 and 2012 86 GT models had an open diff.

Originally Posted by diss7

New Zealand spec RC doesn't have LSD either.

Originally Posted by fatoni

haha did they really say that? nobody ever has opted out of a limited slip diff for the sake of weight. cost? sure. performance? rarely. weight? i dont understand it.

Originally Posted by asnoir

The 86 RC car for japan don't have LSD because it's a car for tunning it.

Sorry guys for this multi-quote, but you are all wrong. The stripped down JDM versions (RC and RA) don't have a Torsen LSD, but they do have a clutch type LSD. It might not lock aggressively, but for sure it is not an open diff. This is something it was never communicated widely from the factory, but I have a similar spec car and I checked it. Unless, if you mean that whatever is not Torsen should not be considered as an LSD, which is entirely wrong. In fact clutch type LSD's are considered more advanced, since they can lock even if one wheel is lifted on the air.

[FRSfan111]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Sorry guys for this multi-quote, but you are all wrong. The stripped down JDM versions (RC and RA) don't have a Torsen LSD, but they do have a clutch type LSD. It might not lock aggressively, but for sure it is not an open diff. This is something it was never communicated widely from the factory, but I have a similar spec car and I checked it. Unless, if you mean that whatever is not Torsen should not be considered as an LSD, which is entirely wrong. In fact clutch type LSD's are considered more advanced, since they can lock even if one wheel is lifted on the air.

That's not what the meant at all. There are plenty that would prefer a clutch type. I'm just happy I don't have to add one right off the bat lol. The old civic tuning days sucked with most being 1 wheeler peelers lol

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Sorry guys for this multi-quote, but you are all wrong. The stripped down JDM versions (RC and RA) don't have a Torsen LSD, but they do have a clutch type LSD. It might not lock aggressively, but for sure it is not an open diff. This is something it was never communicated widely from the factory, but I have a similar spec car and I checked it. Unless, if you mean that whatever is not Torsen should not be considered as an LSD, which is entirely wrong. In fact clutch type LSD's are considered more advanced, since they can lock even if one wheel is lifted on the air.

Are you sure you have an RC? According to this article, it doesn't have a LSD, and no mention of a clutch-type:

Indoors, niceties like a stereo, air conditioning and even trim work around the steering wheel and shifter are nowhere to be found. Toyota even went so far as to ditch the plastic intake cover under the hood. The vehicle doesn't come with a limited-slip rear differential, but the sacrifice seems worth it to us. For starters, the GT-86 RC carries a price tag of 1.9 million Yen, or $24,601 at current conversion rates. That's significantly less than the standard model. Then there's the fact that the RC weighs nearly 100 pounds less than the base GT-86.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/09/t...avor-in-japan/

And this:

The Toyota GT 86 RC Spec is powered by the same 200 HP 2.0 liter, naturally-aspirated petrol engine found in the standard model, but only a six-speed manual transmission will be available to partner with it. The limited slip differential also gets tossed out to save weight.

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/toyota/...-ar124444.html

Would be very cool if the RC really does come with a clutch-type LSD though.

[Sideways&Smiling]

lol @ "to save weight"

It's not to save weight. It's to allow a cheaper overall cost, because a 1.5 or 2 way clutch-type LSD is going to be added by the buyer anyway.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Sorry guys for this multi-quote, but you are all wrong. The stripped down JDM versions (RC and RA) don't have a Torsen LSD, but they do have a clutch type LSD. It might not lock aggressively, but for sure it is not an open diff. This is something it was never communicated widely from the factory, but I have a similar spec car and I checked it. Unless, if you mean that whatever is not Torsen should not be considered as an LSD, which is entirely wrong. In fact clutch type LSD's are considered more advanced, since they can lock even if one wheel is lifted on the air.

II don'tthink you know what is going on in this very old thread you brought up.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Are you sure you have an RC? According to this article, it doesn't have a LSD, and no mention of a clutch-type:



http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/09/t...avor-in-japan/

And this:



http://www.topspeed.com/cars/toyota/...-ar124444.html

Would be very cool if the RC really does come with a clutch-type LSD though.

RC/RA models were actually sold in some countries with slight changes. However, they were still stripped-down and very light. Unfortunately, with the latest revisions this is not valid anymore. The last manufacture day for this grade was MY14.

If the car has the 3.73 final drive ratio, then it also contains this clutch-type LSD. It's not a 1.5 or 2 way design, it seems to be more simple. Very few magazines got it right. In some cases it was referred as semi-LSD (a kind of marketing terminology from Lexus). As I said before, it doesn't lock as hard comparing to the racing clutch-type LSD's, but for sure it is not open-diff.

A simple check is to lift such car in both wheels, rotate one wheel and check how the other wheel rotates. In a clutch-type differential, they will rotate in the same direction.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by fatoni

II don'tthink you know what is going on in this very old thread you brought up.

What do you mean?

[nikitopo]

Here is a review from a magazine which mentions it almost right:

http://www.autosavant.com/2012/02/11...brz-ra-models/

"... the electronic limited slip diffrential which is replaced with a cheaper and lighter mechanically driven variant ... "