Subaru Dealer Blacklist (Surprise markups and other shady dealings) - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

KevinDuMa · 03-01-2012, 03:14 PM

Thanks for the heads up bro

Ryephile · 03-01-2012, 03:15 PM

That's crap. We seriously need a dealership blacklist sticky thread.

Zgrinch · 03-01-2012, 03:15 PM

Pretty easy to let them know how you feel.

http://www.hileygm.com/WebSiteSurvey

grst1 · 03-01-2012, 03:19 PM

Richard Lucas Subaru in NJ wants 2500 over the sticker but at least they were straight-up about it. No hard feelings - I just said no thank you!

Longhorn248 · 03-01-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by grst1

Richard Lucas Subaru in NJ wants 2500 over the sticker but at least they were straight-up about it. No hard feelings.

You hit the nail on the head. If you to mark the thing up, go for it, just don't assume your customer is an idiot and you can sneak a markup by them at the last minute.

grst1 · 03-01-2012, 03:25 PM

Can't agree more - I just said "No thank you"!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

You hit the nail on the head. If you to mark the thing up, go for it, just don't assume your customer is an idiot and you can sneak a markup by them at the last minute.

ashtray · 03-01-2012, 03:35 PM

My dealer said they would probably be selling them with a markup, but agreed if I came in with a deposit that he could sell it for sticker. When I brought my refundable deposit in, he had the sales manager sign it that the car would be sold for MSRP. They'll make a decent profit at full MSRP, though if supply is greatly surpassed by demard at first, a market adjustment would be reasonable. (I'm just not one to pay it - I'd rather wait.). I'm sure in 2 years the cars will be selling near invoice. Pretty much SOP for any hyped up brand new model.

Dave-ROR · 03-01-2012, 03:48 PM

Not that SoA has any real power here when it comes to pricing, but I would contact that and express your displeasure with this dealership. Enough complaints and they will do something about it.

Dave-ROR · 03-01-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eikond

This won't make you feel any better.. but it is proof that some salespeople and some dealerships are trustworthy and stand by good ethics:

I was in contact with a salesman locally prior to the allocation notification email. He must have been under the impression that they would get a ton of cars, so he made me a promise that if Subaru didn't accept VIP, he would still sell me the car for invoice.

I drove out there the next day and met him.. He said he found out shortly after how limited the supply would be and that they wouldn't take VIP and his boss was really really pissed at him for making that promise.. BUT.. they stood behind his promise and wrote the order for me at invoice.

Hiley Subaru could learn a thing or two.. going back on your word to add an upcharge to an MSRP is very bad form.

Please post that dealerships info to for those interested. We should create a thread for the dealers to go to as well. Mine has ended the pricing deal that Grinch, Will (local guy) and myself got but they never even tried to change our existing deal either. I should have gone for invoice!! lol

bestwheelbase · 03-01-2012, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

I knew they were just trying to slip one by me when they sent the form filled in with "unknown". There wasn't any way I was sending them credit card info without any type of guaranteed tied to MSRP.

Well played.

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Originally Posted by eikond

*speaking about a different dealership*

I drove out there the next day and met him.. He said he found out shortly after how limited the supply would be and that they wouldn't take VIP and his boss was really really pissed at him for making that promise.. BUT.. they stood behind his promise and wrote the order for me at invoice.

Nice to hear that he kept his word. Let's not forget, at invoice these guys are still making a profit.

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

We should create a thread for the dealers to go to as well.

Yep, we should have one list for enthusiast-friendly good dealerships (Built by Passion) and sketchy nefarious sleezeballs (Built by Committee). Everybody knows Passion is the better motivator.

Tbxgz · 03-01-2012, 03:58 PM

Longhorn, really hope things work out for you; that is some real bad dealer douchebaggery.

I posted this info in the Mid A forum but just in case anyone from the DMV area missed it:

Fitzgerald Auto Mall in Gaithersburg MD just slapped on $2000 mark up fee.
Originally, they pulled me in by telling me it would be MSRP pricing or below. On top of that the sales manager told me he would take my order first thing this morning... Then failed to mention today was his day off. A number of other posters around here have had really bad experiences with Fitzgerald as well. I highly recommend avoiding them if you are in the DMV area. Annapolis, Herb Gordon, and Beyer Subaru in Alexandria, are far better options with FAR better reputations.

wcbjr · 03-01-2012, 04:03 PM

Subaru of Plano > * in north Texas.

OrbitalEllipses · 03-01-2012, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbxgz

Longhorn, really hope things work out for you; that is some real bad dealer douchebaggery.

I posted this info in the Mid A forum but just in case anyone from the DMV area missed it:

Fitzgerald Auto Mall in Gaithersburg MD just slapped on $2000 mark up fee.
Originally, they pulled me in by telling me it would be MSRP pricing or below. On top of that the sales manager told me he would take my order first thing this morning... Then failed to mention today was his day off. A number of other posters around here have had really bad experiences with Fitzgerald as well. I highly recommend avoiding them if you are in the DMV area. Annapolis, Herb Gordon, and Beyer Subaru in Alexandria, are far better options with FAR better reputations.

Seconded. Have yet to have a "good" experience at Fitzgerald, sales or services or parts.

KevinDuMa · 03-01-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wcbjr

Subaru of Plano > * in north Texas.

That's probably where I'll be going as soon as the fire clears. There's only two in my city range and the other is Sewell Subaru of Dallas.

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Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Not that SoA has any real power here when it comes to pricing, but I would contact that and express your displeasure with this dealership. Enough complaints and they will do something about it. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

03-01-2012, 03:58 PM	#25
Tbxgz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT Location: We got crabs Posts: 702 Thanks: 121 Thanked 113 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Longhorn, really hope things work out for you; that is some real bad dealer douchebaggery. I posted this info in the Mid A forum but just in case anyone from the DMV area missed it: Fitzgerald Auto Mall in Gaithersburg MD just slapped on $2000 mark up fee. Originally, they pulled me in by telling me it would be MSRP pricing or below. On top of that the sales manager told me he would take my order first thing this morning... Then failed to mention today was his day off. A number of other posters around here have had really bad experiences with Fitzgerald as well. I highly recommend avoiding them if you are in the DMV area. Annapolis, Herb Gordon, and Beyer Subaru in Alexandria, are far better options with FAR better reputations. __________________

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03-01-2012, 03:14 PM	#15
KevinDuMa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: 2004 Honda S2000 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 610 Thanks: 46 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the heads up bro

03-01-2012, 03:19 PM	#18
grst1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: '94 Ford Aspire Location: NJ Posts: 302 Thanks: 91 Thanked 115 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Richard Lucas Subaru in NJ wants 2500 over the sticker but at least they were straight-up about it. No hard feelings - I just said no thank you!

03-01-2012, 03:35 PM	#21
ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	My dealer said they would probably be selling them with a markup, but agreed if I came in with a deposit that he could sell it for sticker. When I brought my refundable deposit in, he had the sales manager sign it that the car would be sold for MSRP. They'll make a decent profit at full MSRP, though if supply is greatly surpassed by demard at first, a market adjustment would be reasonable. (I'm just not one to pay it - I'd rather wait.). I'm sure in 2 years the cars will be selling near invoice. Pretty much SOP for any hyped up brand new model.

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wcbjr Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2006 Subaru LGT Location: Texas Posts: 218 Thanks: 46 Thanked 57 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Subaru of Plano > * in north Texas.

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